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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
59. Oh yeah I forgot. NRA talking point #37: "peer review" is just a liberal conspiracy to take away
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 04:58 PM
Sep 2012

your guns.

You won't change our minds HockeyMom Sep 2012 #1
Yes glacierbay Sep 2012 #2
Occasionally some minds do change. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #7
I am open change my mind on gun issues. ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #27
That is what they mean. "An open and honest conversation" = "agree with our side. Vincardog Sep 2012 #54
and your side is being honest? gejohnston Sep 2012 #57
Excuse me; which side do you think I am on? What side is "your side"? Vincardog Sep 2012 #60
at first I thought were agreeing with Hockeymom gejohnston Sep 2012 #62
I agree that nobody wants to change their mind. My comment was what the phrase meant Vincardog Sep 2012 #63
same here gejohnston Sep 2012 #68
I think your observation is correct. N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #74
You should try looking up the... Clames Sep 2012 #3
Gunner side, "the second amendment means that anyone can own and can carry any type of weapon upaloopa Sep 2012 #4
Perhaps it also involves educating the anti-gun people MercutioATC Sep 2012 #8
There are a noticeable number sarisataka Sep 2012 #16
None of the gunners here have advocated that. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #9
A truly honest conversation would not include that kind of dishonest hyperbole slackmaster Sep 2012 #24
Anti-gunner side, "the second amendment means only regulated militia (e.g. National Guard) can own.. Clames Sep 2012 #38
Actually, this post demonstrates why honest conversation is moot. Simo 1939_1940 Sep 2012 #83
It means you better agree with us (gun grabbers) Missycim Sep 2012 #5
Hey, I love cats! ; ) nt rDigital Sep 2012 #26
open and honest is you agreeing to controllers demands. ileus Sep 2012 #6
+10000 Missycim Sep 2012 #48
It probably means without all the extremism, fearmongering, and misinformation from the right. DanTex Sep 2012 #10
I notice that you omit the extremism, fearmongering, and misinformation from the gun-controllers. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #14
Would you agree that the licenses for weapons should be graded, much like we do for automobiles? JoePhilly Sep 2012 #53
This again? beevul Sep 2012 #64
This could be interesting. What levels/grades do you have in mind? ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #66
Fair question. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #76
personally, gejohnston Sep 2012 #78
I included that because Scalia recently said he was "unsure" about rocket launchers ... JoePhilly Sep 2012 #80
he and Kagan are hunting and shooting buddies gejohnston Sep 2012 #81
That's a good start. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #86
If I'm not mistaken the NRA already does that. nt rrneck Sep 2012 #85
So the NRA has worked with the government to codify their certification system into law? JoePhilly Sep 2012 #87
No. But i think they designed firearms training progams rrneck Sep 2012 #88
And? JoePhilly Sep 2012 #89
The NRA is a lobbying organization whose objective rrneck Sep 2012 #90
They are all ready making that money. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #91
There's nothing wrong with certification rrneck Sep 2012 #92
I think you and I are talking past each other. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #93
The government could do it, rrneck Sep 2012 #94
Maybe ... the question was ... "can we have a reasonable discussion?". JoePhilly Sep 2012 #95
We're having a reasonable discussion now. rrneck Sep 2012 #96
The problem is requiring certification to exercise a right ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #102
It is legal to own a rocket launcher, they are no big deal. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #98
Your idea could provide some interesting discussion in this group. ... spin Sep 2012 #70
See my response #76. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #77
I don't see where that would serve any purpose. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #73
I was not limiting my statement to hand guns. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #79
Rifles are rarely used in crime. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #99
"You get a certification which proves your skill" oneshooter Sep 2012 #101
I am getting tired of grabbers comparing a Missycim Sep 2012 #84
Do you think sarisataka Sep 2012 #17
I don't really buy the "both sides do it" line on guns or on most other issues. DanTex Sep 2012 #19
IMO only sarisataka Sep 2012 #20
I haven't been impressed by the examples of "gun control lies". DanTex Sep 2012 #43
Both sides have to be willing to give up their myths sarisataka Sep 2012 #46
But you have repeated several pro-gun myths in that post. DanTex Sep 2012 #49
one problem with the poll you cite gejohnston Sep 2012 #51
Gallup also showed a drop in gun ownership in the 90s. DanTex Sep 2012 #52
all scholars or just scholars come up with results gejohnston Sep 2012 #56
Oh yeah I forgot. NRA talking point #37: "peer review" is just a liberal conspiracy to take away DanTex Sep 2012 #59
Oh yeah, Brady talking point five gejohnston Sep 2012 #61
Who said gun sales are my pet theory? DanTex Sep 2012 #65
I don't know about any talking point gejohnston Sep 2012 #71
One thing that you are leaving out, CCW expansion. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #100
I did not claim to be citing statistics sarisataka Sep 2012 #69
So you give your side a pass to lie. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #22
Then you really have no point in participating in this topic of discussion. Clames Sep 2012 #39
"When your cause is just you cannot allow yourself to be constrained by empirical evidence" friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #44
So a small amount of faith-promoting rumor is acceptable from the "good" guys? friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #42
You seem to totally ignore the fact that many Democrats own firearms and support RKBA. ... spin Sep 2012 #72
Banning assault rifles is a classic example of extremisim, fear mongering, and misinformation. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #40
One scenario tosh Sep 2012 #11
+10000000 glacierbay Sep 2012 #13
How can the Party or the Feds facilitate that? GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #15
I wish I knew tosh Sep 2012 #45
Thank you a civil discussion. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #47
How do you define talking points? spin Sep 2012 #75
there are already roughly 20,000 gun laws on the books in America. We have given you enough bad sofa king Sep 2012 #12
Uhh glacierbay Sep 2012 #18
......... bad sofa king Sep 2012 #21
That's OK. I figured out what you meant. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #23
thank you bad sofa king Sep 2012 #32
Ok I got it now. glacierbay Sep 2012 #37
LOL bongbong Sep 2012 #33
That reminds me, bad sofa king Sep 2012 #35
Good! bongbong Sep 2012 #36
The problem is Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #25
Unfortunately gun-prohibitionists don't want an honest or open conversation. They want to take your rDigital Sep 2012 #28
When you have two sides who are unwilling to change their views even the slightest, it is impossible liberal N proud Sep 2012 #29
Answer bongbong Sep 2012 #30
I would like us to stop calling each other names. ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #31
That would be an element of progress :) discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #41
"Shut up while I tell you why guns are responsible for all the evils in the world and why 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #34
Why should Pro-2nd people talk to gun-grabbers? Missycim Sep 2012 #50
Your last sentence is what the conversation is partially about orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #55
Dem platform "we will preserve Americans’ Second Amendment right to own and use firearms." page 53 jody Sep 2012 #58
I think both sides need to list their beliefs socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #67
One that doesn't include the mention of my dick or its size. n/t cherokeeprogressive Sep 2012 #82
Simple answer: Bigger echo chamber Clames Sep 2012 #97
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