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38. An estimated 80 million citizens own 300 million firearms in our nation. ...
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:33 PM
Sep 2012

While it is rare, some people who usually have serious mental issues do use their weapons to massacre others and the results are tragic. A high percentage of the remaining gun homicides in this nation are caused by gang warfare between drug gangs fighting over turf.

There is little that strong gun control can do to control criminal drug gang activity. Mexico has extremely strong gun control yet the cartels manage to smuggle in firearms not only from the United States but from other nations usually in Central and South America. Such gangs often use new fully automatic rifles, bazookas and hand grenades which are not sold by mom and pop gun stores in the United States. Controlling drug gang activity is a job for law enforcement but we should also consider legalizing some drugs such as marijuana as our War on Drugs is and has been a total failure.

The majority of those who have ran amok and committed massacres were waving red flags long before they went on their killing sprees. Obviously we need to develop a more responsive mental healthcare system in our nation that reports those who have truly serious mental issues to the authorities and their names should be entered into the NICS background check system for firearm sales. (Note: this is already the law.)

Of course better law enforcement to control gangs and a better mental healthcare system would not eliminate all firearm tragedies. When under the influence of alcohol or in a moment of anger, people often do stupid things. Sometimes they grab a firearm and misuse it. (We once tried to ban alcohol in the United States but were wise enough to drop that attempt as it was just as bad a failure as our War on Drugs.)

In 2009, there were 15,241 murders in the United States and 9,146 were caused by a firearm. (Source: http://www.juancole.com/2011/01/over-9000-murders-by-gun-in-us-39-in-uk.html) Therefore it is obvious that Americans do kill other Americans without firearms although these weapons were used in 60% of these crimes.

I feel that our best approach is the better control who owns firearms in our nation. We can best do this by tweaking and improving existing laws and by better enforcing them. We should be able to reduce the number of firearms tragedies significantly by using this approach.


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If you knew you'd be electrocuted. Would you join . The Amish? Peepsite Sep 2012 #2
The Orthodox, and it's always Shabbat. Loudly Sep 2012 #4
Are you paranoid or do you piss off that many people? n/t socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #3
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This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Sep 2012 #6
Safety first...that's why I carry. ileus Sep 2012 #7
It was the highest likelyhood until I turned 40 or so. ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #8
He had a chance to change his stchick rrneck Sep 2012 #10
Yes. rrneck Sep 2012 #9
Thread winner. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #31
That is why I don't own a gun. Downwinder Sep 2012 #11
That should be and is your decision ... spin Sep 2012 #18
When you realize that you have a gun in your mouth Downwinder Sep 2012 #21
How is that the gun's fault? holdencaufield Sep 2012 #22
Agreed, did I blame the gun. Downwinder Sep 2012 #27
although I'm as pro gun as they come gejohnston Sep 2012 #23
Went through a very bad period before MS was diagnosed. Downwinder Sep 2012 #26
I totally agree. (n/t) spin Sep 2012 #24
Assuming your premise, yes I would. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #12
When it's you time to go HockeyMom Sep 2012 #13
I don't believe in pre-destiny. spin Sep 2012 #19
If you knew you were going to drown, SheilaT Sep 2012 #14
I may or may not agree with you ... spin Sep 2012 #17
Better gun control means SheilaT Sep 2012 #29
An estimated 80 million citizens own 300 million firearms in our nation. ... spin Sep 2012 #38
Close, but no cigar... MercutioATC Sep 2012 #25
No, that's not the questioned posed. SheilaT Sep 2012 #28
We're obviously reading the OP differently. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #30
So you'd support gun rights ONLY if you knew a bullet was going to cause your death? SheilaT Sep 2012 #35
No, I'd support them EVEN IF I knew a bullet would cause my death. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #36
My personal plan ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #15
LOL. Great post. (n/t) spin Sep 2012 #16
HA Ashgrey77 Sep 2012 #20
I know that the probability I'll die or be seriously injured in a car crash is far higher than... slackmaster Sep 2012 #32
actually, you'll very probably die in a car wreck. trouble.smith Sep 2012 #33
Yes. Clames Sep 2012 #34
Without a doubt... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #37
Guess what? Remmah2 Sep 2012 #39
Since I likely will die someday sarisataka Sep 2012 #40
I don't support your claim to any such "right." Loudly Sep 2012 #41
And if I said 'I don't support your claim to any such "right."' sarisataka Sep 2012 #43
Unfortunately, my right not to be deprived of my Life Loudly Sep 2012 #44
It amuses me Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #45
Amusing and very sad. Clames Sep 2012 #48
I could hit you with a brick... MercutioATC Sep 2012 #46
Maybe you missed the part sarisataka Sep 2012 #47
It has never been Oneka Sep 2012 #49
If I knew it was going to happen, what difference would it make if I were pro or anti? n/t NewMoonTherian Sep 2012 #42
Bingo (n/t) Euromutt Sep 2012 #56
In this life i have exactly one predestined event: Oneka Sep 2012 #50
I spent 2 tours in RVN, and 30 years running around oneshooter Sep 2012 #51
I would want all pigs RegieRocker Sep 2012 #52
You forgot road rage compadre. Loudly Sep 2012 #54
Absolutely WOULD be!!! liberallibral Sep 2012 #53
Nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Bosso 63 Sep 2012 #55
If you knew a criminal (who got off on a technicality) would murder you 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #57
It's not the bullet that would cause my death. Hells Liberal Sep 2012 #58
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