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In reply to the discussion: Bicyclist shot after colliding with pickup truck [View all]Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)187. Methinks you need to read the article again.
He got hit by a car and then got shot.
Um, no. The cyclist ran into the truck. Then he got mad about it and started beating the snot out of the driver. According to an eye witness, he was "pounding" on the driver, about 7 times.
I'd say, and the police investigating the case say, that this was a valid self-defense shooting.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/19415253/2012/08/30/driver-fatally-shoots-bicyclist-in-taylor
"Meyers, who stayed at the scene until police arrived, was taken into custody and then released from jail Thursday. He referred us to his attorney, James Makowski, who claims this is a clear cut case of self defense.
"Started pounding on the car saying, 'I'm going to kill you,' reached inside the pickup truck, started pounding on my client's face," Makowski explained. "My client was hitting the gas trying to get away, but in the heat of the moment he didn't realize he... had it in park. Car (is) not going anywhere, so he finally felt no choice but to retrieve his weapon and discharge it."
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Um, no. The cyclist ran into the truck. Then he got mad about it and started beating the snot out of the driver. According to an eye witness, he was "pounding" on the driver, about 7 times.
I'd say, and the police investigating the case say, that this was a valid self-defense shooting.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/19415253/2012/08/30/driver-fatally-shoots-bicyclist-in-taylor
"Meyers, who stayed at the scene until police arrived, was taken into custody and then released from jail Thursday. He referred us to his attorney, James Makowski, who claims this is a clear cut case of self defense.
"Started pounding on the car saying, 'I'm going to kill you,' reached inside the pickup truck, started pounding on my client's face," Makowski explained. "My client was hitting the gas trying to get away, but in the heat of the moment he didn't realize he... had it in park. Car (is) not going anywhere, so he finally felt no choice but to retrieve his weapon and discharge it."
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Getting the shit beat out of you because you had the misfortune of being run into
rl6214
Aug 2012
#3
Good people HAVE NO DUTY TO RETREAT when they are victims of violent crime.
Atypical Liberal
Aug 2012
#64
How in the Hell did you manage to hold the guy, shift the gears and steer?
Trunk Monkey
Aug 2012
#66
I had the opportunity to do that once and I decided the three dollars being snatched
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2012
#192
The man who attacked me was big, mean, and drunk, tailgate partying in a stadium parking lot
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#193
Naturally, you kill the cyclist! The point of "defensive gun use" isn't self-protection, silly!
DanTex
Aug 2012
#8
That's precisely what it is: murder. The Matt Dillon-wannabe had multiple options open
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#116
In point of fact, the Matt Dillon-wannabe had ample opportunity to drive off,
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#119
Completely valid, and all the hand-waving in the world don't make it so.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#121
"if he were boxed in traffic" - You know this how? Oh, right: you don't.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#125
Show me where the cops said he was "boxed in." Oh, right, you can't because they didn't.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#129
"if he were boxed in traffic" - Those are your words; your assertion. Back it up.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#130
"maybe"..."Google Maps"...."you weren't there"..."if"..."maybe" again...now "Doesn't matter."
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#134
Oh yes I did: the fact that you can't be bothered to read it or simply are unable to comprehend
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#142
"maybe"..."Google Maps"...."you weren't there"..."if"...and then back to "maybe" again...
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#126
Spot-on analysis, all of it. I've seen this kind of bloodlust disguised as concern for "RKBA"
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#144
Here, here...it's not as bad as all that. Just because you've been schooled on the facts and
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#149
Oh yes you have. And the posts are there to prove it, with a simple mouse scroll. n/t.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#154
"maybe"..."Google Maps"...."you weren't there"..."if"..."maybe" again..."Doesn't matter"...
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#163
Oh yes I do, and this was it. The shooter here should be charged just like Earsland was.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#145
He had every opportunity to lock those truck doors, put that vehicle in drive, and hit the gas,
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#159
As he had ample opportunity to retreat, it is not relevant. Period. n/t.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#168
No, you just conveniently left that fact out because it doesn't fit your narrative.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#147
What's the point of having a gun handy if you don't get to use it occasionally?
Starboard Tack
Sep 2012
#194
what am I missing here? Bicyclists are NOT pedestrians in any state that I'm aware of....
mike_c
Aug 2012
#34
What if you're fiding the bicycle on the sidewalk? Which rules apply?
JustABozoOnThisBus
Aug 2012
#61
You apparently haven't gotten the memo: if you so much as even look cross-eyed
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#114
Why have you not contacted the authorities in MI with your "knowledege" of this incident?
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2012
#172