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gejohnston

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51. Neither are any of those other countries
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:13 PM
Aug 2012

certainly not Japan.
US gun laws are not really that much weaker than Canada's. But then, no place in Canada has virtual bans like DC or USVI. Simply different. Weaker in some ways, more stringent than others. Canadians can buy online and have the gun shipped to your door, not in the US. Canadian 12 year olds can legally buy ammo, not in the US. Felons can legally own guns after the pay their debt to society unless a "prohibition order" was part of the sentence. Those are reserved for violent felons. In the US, even John Dean is a "prohibited person" (I was surprised when iverglas once said that provision would be struck down as violating the Charter of Rights and Freedoms). Doesn't really matter since their murder rate was equally low before 1977 when on balance, they were about the same. They didn't before 1969 when it wasn't that hard to get a concealed carry permit. They had stricter pistol regulations but lax on machine guns and even laxer on long guns. We were stricter on machine guns and short barreled rifles, including pistols with shoulder stocks.

You should probably give courtesy to the Bill of Rights, and/or those who wrote it. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #1
only if gun owners are in the militia. nt msongs Aug 2012 #4
That would be all them who aren't in the military. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #5
WRONG bongbong Aug 2012 #9
That phrase did not mean what you think it meant. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #18
Lucky bongbong Aug 2012 #23
The OED HALO141 Aug 2012 #29
Pulled bongbong Aug 2012 #31
"gun-religionists"? holdencaufield Aug 2012 #68
made of straw bongbong Aug 2012 #74
OK, I got around to reading it. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #77
answer bongbong Sep 2012 #78
I think section "a" legally defines the term for section "b." ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #79
Circular bongbong Sep 2012 #80
It is not circular. Section "a" legally defines militias, and section "b" defines the classes of ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #81
Still circular! bongbong Sep 2012 #82
There are different rules for men and women. ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author bongbong Sep 2012 #84
Oh, OK bongbong Sep 2012 #85
The document seems to at least suggest at least one of the founder's (Hamilton) intentions ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #91
" It is completely obvious to Liberals." rl6214 Aug 2012 #56
LOL. Liberals like Scalia and Thomas. DanTex Aug 2012 #57
So if I formed a militia Missycim Aug 2012 #7
Nothing stopping you. Clames Aug 2012 #12
oh COOL Missycim Aug 2012 #15
Well it would be the crew served rather than coaxial... Clames Aug 2012 #48
I was hoping he was Missycim Aug 2012 #49
$130,000 if you buy in bulk. Clames Aug 2012 #70
didnt the people in waco texas and ruby ridge try to form their own militia leftyohiolib Aug 2012 #26
no gejohnston Aug 2012 #27
No waco was a cult Missycim Aug 2012 #35
10 USC § 311 - Militia: composition and classes slackmaster Aug 2012 #11
We are... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #53
A SPENT RIFLE CASING!!!! Holy snizzleboggle say it AIN'T so... ileus Aug 2012 #2
Hey those spent rifle casings are killers, you rude bean toter. Missycim Aug 2012 #8
yea that damn bill of rights making everyone buy lots of guns - go tohell bill of rights you leftyohiolib Aug 2012 #3
The BoR doesn't make you buy firearms glacierbay Aug 2012 #6
That is not accurate. The Bill of Rights doesn't confer or create any rights. slackmaster Aug 2012 #14
Thank you glacierbay Aug 2012 #17
Well, the rights don't really exist. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #20
my post was in response to post #1 leftyohiolib Aug 2012 #25
More gun = more safety bongbong Aug 2012 #10
I haven't seen anyone here say that glacierbay Aug 2012 #13
Nope bongbong Aug 2012 #16
It's been proven many times here glacierbay Aug 2012 #19
You're wasting your time Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #22
I know glacierbay Aug 2012 #24
Umm... that's not proof of anything. DanTex Aug 2012 #28
Of course! HALO141 Aug 2012 #30
Most of our homicides are gun homicides. DanTex Aug 2012 #33
ask me if I care. HALO141 Sep 2012 #90
LOL bongbong Aug 2012 #34
Russia has 3x our total murder rate. rDigital Aug 2012 #36
LOL. Russia, again. DanTex Aug 2012 #50
Neither are any of those other countries gejohnston Aug 2012 #51
I believe the "industrialized nation" moniker is a sleight of hand for creating rDigital Aug 2012 #52
That's because you have no idea what you are talking about. DanTex Aug 2012 #54
Well, you have a right to your own opinion, but not your own cherry picked facts. rDigital Aug 2012 #58
LOL. In other words, all you've got is a punchline. DanTex Aug 2012 #60
I admire your vigor in promotion of your ideology, but not your candor. I find it repulsive and rDigital Aug 2012 #61
If you think there's no better comparison than the US and Russia, then you really need to do... DanTex Aug 2012 #62
I see another culture warrior happy to paint reality as he sees fit, nothing more. rDigital Aug 2012 #63
LOL. So you lost the argument and now you've retreated to your talking points and personal attacks. DanTex Aug 2012 #64
I've already won the argument. Elitism and pomp are the downfall of the Gun-Prohibitionist. rDigital Aug 2012 #66
Sad. You are as clueless as I feared. OK then. DanTex Aug 2012 #67
You think comparing the country with more freedom than any other to any other country is a rDigital Aug 2012 #69
I think comparing between the US and other similar nations is the best comparison. DanTex Aug 2012 #71
Russia is a better comparison than any of the countries that you provided. They're a superpower. rDigital Aug 2012 #72
Also, you concede the point on Russia that it's not about the weapons used rDigital Aug 2012 #73
One big thank you is in order rDigital Aug 2012 #76
LOL! bongbong Sep 2012 #86
not by much gejohnston Aug 2012 #65
Also there are more guns than EVER before now in the US and we have currently one of the lowest rDigital Aug 2012 #39
Still a falsehood bongbong Aug 2012 #41
As stated before, we could have a better conversation without the insults. rDigital Aug 2012 #43
Nope bongbong Aug 2012 #44
I'm saying guns don't cause crime regardless. There's no proof of that. Look at the UK. Their rDigital Aug 2012 #47
Before you start parroting the GSS again. Dr_Scholl Sep 2012 #88
Sorry bongbong Aug 2012 #32
The name calling is not needed. This is a civil forum for intellectual discussion. nt rDigital Aug 2012 #37
Good bongbong Aug 2012 #40
Your facts are fine, but your candor leaves much to be desired. Posts like yours can be rDigital Aug 2012 #42
Want some cheese with your whine? bongbong Aug 2012 #45
Why even give him a platform anymore glacierbay Aug 2012 #55
I guess you are also used to a good portion of your posts being hidden rl6214 Aug 2012 #59
Can't help it bongbong Aug 2012 #75
More gun maybe maybe not....45 < 380 maybe so. ileus Aug 2012 #21
Another disturbed male with Wayne for a middle name slackmaster Aug 2012 #38
It appears all kinds of firearms laws Jenoch Aug 2012 #46
How about... Spryguy Sep 2012 #87
I don't think that dog will hunt. People just need to lock up their goodies, they're responsible if rDigital Sep 2012 #89
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