Gun Control & RKBA

Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)

11. Thank you. That pretty much sums it up.

Wed Aug 29, 2012, 05:27 PM

Aug 2012

Obviously, there are occasions when it makes sense to be armed, whether one is LE or civilian. But indiscriminate carry, especially in urban environments, puts us on a slippery slope.
I know many gun owners and I enjoy target shooting, but I don't know anyone outside of LE who carries. Most of those I discuss the issue with agree with me. A few think it impossible to disarm LE. I disagree. Mind you, tasers and pepper spray are weapons and if used correctly can be highly effective, as can rubber bullets. However, the trend seems to be towards greater lethality and effectiveness.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

38 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

More police that need firearms training: Woman Shot in her pajamas by deputy [View all] rDigital Aug 2012 OP

Dude, don't you know the police are the only ones that should have guns cause they're trained shadowrider Aug 2012 #1

Most felling people care about the victim upaloopa Aug 2012 #2

It's a given that everyone feels for the victim. People aren't monsters just because they rDigital Aug 2012 #3

Caring about both the victim and our gun-rights is NOT mutually exclusive. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #4

I *feel* people shouldn't be at the mercy of inept and trigger happy cops 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #6

Being associated with the "gun culture" seems to be frowned apon in many departments rDigital Sep 2012 #20

Felling people? Clames Aug 2012 #7

Police are trained professionals. Elite gun-carriers that don't make stupid mistakes 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #5

Cops have guns because YOU do. Loudly Sep 2012 #27

Actual bad guys always have guns and other weapons. Firearms are just the most effective weapons. rDigital Sep 2012 #28

Not hardly. It is a policy decision what we allow to proliferate to society's detriment. Loudly Sep 2012 #30

False equivalence: Are police using child porn to defend themselves from deadly threats? nt rDigital Sep 2012 #31

Images deemed harmful in and of themselves. Loudly Sep 2012 #32

Nice dodge, you didn't answer the question though. Can the police protect themselves with child rDigital Sep 2012 #33

What am I dodging? A relevant question seriously posed? Loudly Sep 2012 #34

And how does the answer advance your argument that access to guns and ammo is a right? rDigital Sep 2012 #35

Don't make me defend Scalia and Thomas. Loudly Sep 2012 #36

so why do Japanese cops (mostly) carry guns? gejohnston Sep 2012 #29

In no way is that an accurate statement 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #37

Another good reason to disarm them. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #8

I give you credit. I've read a lot of your posts. rDigital Aug 2012 #10

Thank you. That pretty much sums it up. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #11

When people's lives are on the line, they tend to want the most effective way to stop the threat. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #12

True. We are also hard wired to rut in the street. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #14

Rutting in the street is not necessary to survival, or even to passing on one's genes. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #17

Well stated rebuttal to condescending elitist tripe. Nt rDigital Aug 2012 #19

He should have had a can of beans. ileus Aug 2012 #9

Inadequate gun laws are a major reason for accidents like this and the NYC shootings. DanTex Aug 2012 #13

right, they fire in the air gejohnston Aug 2012 #16

What sort of Jenoch Aug 2012 #18

I don't suppose you read the original Spiegel article... Euromutt Sep 2012 #21

You're going to get a reply rDigital Sep 2012 #22

Umm... I'm not claiming that the reduction in police shootings in Germany DanTex Sep 2012 #23

Whereas comparing the US before and after widespread CCW and liberalization of gun laws TPaine7 Sep 2012 #24

Try including qualifications to your arguments when you make them Euromutt Sep 2012 #25

His whole point is the insults. He knows that he's on the losing side of history. The argument is rDigital Sep 2012 #26

Beats getting shot in her ass by a deputy. hack89 Aug 2012 #15

Out her pinkie? AtheistCrusader Sep 2012 #38