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Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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27. This is where any new work needs to start.

Reply to iverglas (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 5, 2012, 02:08 PM

Jan 2012

The billions spent on the NICS thus far would be wasted if this system is dismantled and replaced. The updating of state laws is where effort needs to be made.

The US Constitution reserves to the state, the authority to regulate private citizens. Existing federal laws bind FFLs and with FFLs being the principal retail source of firearms, the sales end of reasonable control is covered. The information collection that failed in the case Cho in Virginia, for example, needs work. While Virginia has made changes, other states have not.

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(UK) Horden shootings: killer held six gun licences [View all] alp227 Jan 2012 OP

When in doubt, pile on ever more restrictions... SteveW Jan 2012 #1

Ah the gun laws in the western civilized nations rl6214 Jan 2012 #2

As for Benjamin Barnes, so for Michael Atherton. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #3

well, I'll say exactly what I said in the thread iverglas Jan 2012 #4

But let's be accurate. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #6

perhaps you would ask iverglas Jan 2012 #8

I will... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #11

I dunno iverglas Jan 2012 #12

As I expected... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #13

but not actually iverglas Jan 2012 #15

This is where any new work needs to start. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #27

And that "careful screening" will not occur, as firearms possession has now gotten... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #7

what is the basis for this repeated assertion? iverglas Jan 2012 #9

And efficacy can only be determined in retrospect, and reasonableness is subjective. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #30

round and round and round iverglas Jan 2012 #31

love your citation iverglas Jan 2012 #5

A law is only as effective as its enforcement Euromutt Jan 2012 #10

The police then need more oversight/and or funding. n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #16

The police need more oversight, lest... lest what? Euromutt Jan 2012 #19

Lest they ineffectively enforce the firearms permitting laws. n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #24

What's noteworthy about this story is that in England, this is actually a noteworthy story. DanTex Jan 2012 #14

+1000 ellisonz Jan 2012 #17

Can we say "post hoc ergo propter hoc"? Euromutt Jan 2012 #20

The "usual objections"... DanTex Jan 2012 #21

Simply put Dan.... We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #22

Yes, facts are facts. DanTex Jan 2012 #23

I can make the distinction quite easily We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #25

How much of our murder rate is skewed by drug violence? hack89 Jan 2012 #26

why do you imply this is not true of other comparable countries? iverglas Jan 2012 #33

So lets fix that problem first - more bang for the buck hack89 Jan 2012 #34

a site that may be of interest iverglas Jan 2012 #29

more likely gejohnston Jan 2012 #18

I meant to say that iverglas Jan 2012 #28

There are options... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #32