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In reply to the discussion: Police: Body found at US park is that of gunman [View all]iverglas
(38,549 posts)74. did he have a restraining order against him?
According to the linked news report:
The mother of his toddler daughter sought a temporary restraining order against him, according to court documents.
... In November 2011, a guardian ad litem recommended parenting and communication classes for both parents as well as a visitation schedule for Barnes until he completed evaluations for domestic violence and mental health and complied with treatment recommendations.
... In November 2011, a guardian ad litem recommended parenting and communication classes for both parents as well as a visitation schedule for Barnes until he completed evaluations for domestic violence and mental health and complied with treatment recommendations.
Maybe there is something clearer available to indicate whether an order had actually been made. If one was made, why was nothing done to remove his firearms?
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017153774_skyway04m.html?prmid=4939
Records show he'd struggled in high school and had been kicked out of his beloved Army a loss that fed an obsession with guns, according to one acquaintance.
He lost his girlfriend to his erratic, threatening behavior and a close Army friend to suicide. He was under court order to be supervised when he visited his infant daughter.
... Barnes spent two years and seven months in the service ... . But he was discharged from the Army in 2009 after an arrest for driving under the influence and illegal transportation of a private weapon.
He lost his girlfriend to his erratic, threatening behavior and a close Army friend to suicide. He was under court order to be supervised when he visited his infant daughter.
... Barnes spent two years and seven months in the service ... . But he was discharged from the Army in 2009 after an arrest for driving under the influence and illegal transportation of a private weapon.
http://www.rentonreporter.com/news/136624058.html
About nine people were at the party. At some point, there was a show and tell of guns and at midnight New Year's Day at least two people fired multiple rounds into the air, according to West.
Just before 3 a.m. one of the men the party asked to see a gun belonging to another person. He refused to give back the gun when asked and a shootout started involving at least two people. Barnes was one of those who pulled a gun and fired.
Barnes and two other subjects left the house after the shooting. ...
Just before 3 a.m. one of the men the party asked to see a gun belonging to another person. He refused to give back the gun when asked and a shootout started involving at least two people. Barnes was one of those who pulled a gun and fired.
Barnes and two other subjects left the house after the shooting. ...
This shooting into the air at New Year's seems to be quite the, er, fad. But I'm sure it's still one of those "rare" things.
No restraining order that I'm seeing; proceedings were apparently still ongoing. I'm sure seeing some risk factors that contraindicate firearms possession, though!
And you betcha that obsession with guns is one of 'em.
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i am just so sad by this story. i know that i am suppose to be angry at this man.
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#1
for fuck sake, lol..... it is a gun issue wish was not how i addressed the post
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#4
MSM called him a "survivalist" rathern than face up to how he became a murderer...
SteveW
Jan 2012
#78
yes. and again... because in my book, i almost feel it rude not to reply to a person.
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#86
respectfully, i disagree. lol, i do mean respectfully. poster #3 GUESSED and MADE UP (as you are)
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#96
You'll see guys like him in any gun store in this country. And you guys want him to carry in public.
Hoyt
Jan 2012
#27
And who are "you guys"? Got a link to a thread where someone said that?
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#30
*I* certainly wouldn't have wanted him to carry, as he was obviously deranged.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#44
That would be prior restraint, and it's something generally frowned upon.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#77
Ah, but since it's now a protected right, a higher standard prevails
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#88
And sometimes, the precautions simply don't work. See one Michael Atherton, for example:
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#94
I'd point out that firearms categories are not congruent in our two countries.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#100
I've no inherent objection to mandatory licensing, as it's used here in Massachusetts.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#106
I'm sorry, but including "risk factors" as a criteria is entirely too subjective.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#113
What does this "current events" post have to do with the topics of the Guns discussion group?
slackmaster
Jan 2012
#11
Yes, it *is* telling. It tells me that veterans need better aftercare.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#17
The post would be a much better contribution if it included even a minimal editorial remark in OP
slackmaster
Jan 2012
#49
People with strong views on any subject tend to be the ones most likely to engage in discussions
slackmaster
Jan 2012
#83
In political science, the term for "strong views" is "militancy," like stuffing envelopes. nt
SteveW
Jan 2012
#92
Just wondering why poster wants one of those guns so bad, and why in hell he would post it here.
Hoyt
Jan 2012
#31
That's the kind of gunner I know-- talking about guns and crud over victim's grave?
Hoyt
Jan 2012
#41
And they are popular among those who pose in front of mirror before shooting a woman.
Hoyt
Jan 2012
#42
And computers are popular amongst those who trade child pornography, run botnets...
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#45
Should probably replace Bill Wade with someone that has two brain cells to rub together.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2012
#62