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49. Here's what many NRA members feel ...
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:21 PM
Aug 2012

July 25, 2012 11:00 AM
Luntz Poll: NRA Membership Supports Gun Sensible Control

By Susie Madrak

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87 percent of NRA members agree that support for 2nd Amendment rights goes hand-in-hand with keeping guns out of the hands of criminals.

There is very strong support for criminal background checks:
74 percent support requiring criminal background checks of anyone purchasing a gun.
79 percent support requiring gun retailers to perform background checks on all employees – a measure recently endorsed by the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the trade association for the firearms industry.

NRA members strongly support allowing states to set basic eligibility requirements for people who want to carry concealed, loaded guns in public places. By contrast, the NRA leadership’s top federal legislative priority – national reciprocity for concealed carry permits – would effectively eliminate these requirements by forcing every state to allow non-residents to carry concealed guns even if they would not qualify for a local permit.

NRA members support many common state eligibility rules for concealed carrying:
75 percent believe concealed carry permits should only be granted to applicants who have not committed any violent misdemeanors, including assault.
74 percent believe permits should only be granted to applicants who have completed gun safety training.
68 percent believe permits should only be granted to applicants who do not have prior arrests for domestic violence.
63 percent believe permits should only be granted to applicants 21 years of age or older.

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/luntz-poll-nra-membership-supports-gu


Note: The entire article is a worthwhile read.

After long consideration, I personally am not fond of national reciprocity for concealed carry permits as I feel that should be up to the individual states. Allowing the Federal government to have any control might lead to draconian regulations. I should note that as a Florida resident with a Concealed Weapons Permit I can legally carry a concealed firearm in 35 states as long as I abide with certain restrictions. For example in Florida, I can carry a concealed stun gun, knife, or billy club but that would be against the law for me in some states. (source: http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/news/concealed_carry.html)

I don't seriously believe that the NRA wants to do away with all gun laws. The organization does definitely oppose some existing laws in some states and hopes to change them, but it also favors better enforcement of many existing laws.

I believe that both sides of the gun control issue might find common ground and the ability to compromise. First we both need to stop hating each other. That's why I always do my best to be polite when discussing gun control with those who disagree with my views. We often squabble and bicker like unsupervised children in a playground and that accomplishes absolutely nothing.





That's obvious to anyone who has ever flipped through a copy of American Rifleman or American Hunter slackmaster Aug 2012 #1
Typical Fudd. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #2
Remember, *his* deadly weapons are somehow 'nicer' than "*those* peoples" deadly weapons... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #10
Problem is -- we do understand why you want access to "other firearms. " That's main reason for Hoyt Aug 2012 #63
Yes, and why you and people like you are failing at the legislative process. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #75
The 4.3 million member are fairly happy with the NRA's representation of them. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #3
Does anyone admit to belonging to the NRA? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #6
Several, including myself, have posted that we are members. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #8
+1 OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #17
+2 nt virginia mountainman Aug 2012 #21
So you support an organization intent on defeating Obama and advancing right wing causes not even Hoyt Aug 2012 #30
You still haven't been able to prove this statement. rl6214 Aug 2012 #37
Exercise you mind by looking at NRA leadership, then look up money they give to buy support. Hoyt Aug 2012 #38
You are the one making the statement and, by your own words should be the one providing proof rl6214 Aug 2012 #46
The NRA takes no stance on those other issues. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #39
+3 rDigital Aug 2012 #35
more admit to being NRA members than gejohnston Aug 2012 #9
Are you an NRA member? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #13
No, but I'm not a member of AAA either. gejohnston Aug 2012 #14
AAA? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #18
not much of a joiner gejohnston Aug 2012 #20
Yeah, cars, and bathub falls and pool drownings.............. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #22
not strawmen nor red herrings when your side rants about accidents but gejohnston Aug 2012 #24
Right. it's not. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #25
Yes I am. Certified Rifle instructor,Certified pistol instructor, Range officer, oneshooter Aug 2012 #43
Um, TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #47
I am addressing you. Hoyt just likes to butt in. oneshooter Aug 2012 #84
Butt in? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #86
Oneshooter, fact folks who view guns like you are instructing is another reason to oppose toting. Hoyt Aug 2012 #66
You are being disingenuous Jenoch Aug 2012 #69
He's also on record as being all for shooting teenagers in the back while they're running Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #81
You talking about ARMED sammy weaver, who his dad hid behind while evading federal marshals? Hoyt Aug 2012 #88
none of that is relevant gejohnston Aug 2012 #89
Once again you have failed to answer a question posed to you. oneshooter Aug 2012 #87
I've belonged to the NRA for probably 40 years. ... spin Aug 2012 #28
Raises Hand Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #32
Lifetime member Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #42
I am a Member of the NRA holdencaufield Aug 2012 #64
how big of a hassle is it to have a gejohnston Aug 2012 #65
Paperwork takes almost a year holdencaufield Aug 2012 #67
We should aspire to Australia's laws - of course, many gun cultists couldn't handle it. Hoyt Aug 2012 #71
Who should lead the fight Jenoch Aug 2012 #74
What it doesn't realize is... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #72
Other than you and a few others, sounds like vast majority of citizens are satisfied with laws. Hoyt Aug 2012 #80
How do you draw THAT conclusion? NT Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #82
It sees what it wants to see. NT holdencaufield Aug 2012 #85
The retailers like Walmart as well cadmium Aug 2012 #4
Why do Jenoch Aug 2012 #5
While i don't Oneka Aug 2012 #7
Why do gun grabbers Missycim Aug 2012 #11
Congrescritters sre pretty cheap. rrneck Aug 2012 #12
A year or so ago there was a chart roaming around with pipoman Aug 2012 #73
Ever notice how gun sales and the NRA's popularity all go up whenever some politician even hints 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #15
It's funny, and sad, how some hunters think they are somehow a majority of gun owners benEzra Aug 2012 #16
Oh, well, if Michael F. McNulty said it then it MUST be fact!!!! HALO141 Aug 2012 #19
Nope, your simply wrong...again... virginia mountainman Aug 2012 #23
Most states that allow semiautomatic rifles to be used for hunting game such a deer ... spin Aug 2012 #26
Quite obvious, but expect its wind-up doll defenders on this site to claim otherwise... villager Aug 2012 #27
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. ... spin Aug 2012 #31
Except, repeating this mantra is part of that "wind-up doll" rhetoric I was talking about villager Aug 2012 #48
Here's what many NRA members feel ... spin Aug 2012 #49
It's like being a "sensible" Republican. The "party apparatus" you're in will never allow policies villager Aug 2012 #53
I support many of the training programs that the NRA offers ... spin Aug 2012 #54
So the NRA blocking funding of studies on gun violence wasn't enough? villager Aug 2012 #55
actually they don't gejohnston Aug 2012 #56
The CDC studies have been strongly biased against guns. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #57
Yes, only the NRA -- not the CDC! -- can be trusted to talk "honestly" about guns! villager Aug 2012 #58
false choice gejohnston Aug 2012 #59
false post villager Aug 2012 #60
op eds don't count gejohnston Aug 2012 #61
Indeed. Neither does "to the best of your knowledge" villager Aug 2012 #70
there are no automatic apologies gejohnston Aug 2012 #76
And of course, to the NRA, all research contradicting their world views is "advocacy" villager Aug 2012 #77
research or results? gejohnston Aug 2012 #78
So you agree then the NRA should quit trying to block other studies and let the results villager Aug 2012 #79
not what the law says gejohnston Aug 2012 #83
What is false about his post? GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #68
We love our vehicles and speed but we live with roads with speed limits. Thinkingabout Aug 2012 #29
these irresponsible owners are mostly gangsters gejohnston Aug 2012 #33
Speed kills a lot of people in this country Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #41
I own two modified cars, a 85.5 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe, and a 01 Mustang GT virginia mountainman Aug 2012 #45
It's no different than ALEC. When it began it was geared toward gun safety. Now it's just Lint Head Aug 2012 #34
I disagree with your opinion of this article rl6214 Aug 2012 #36
"rifleman" I doubt he was ever a Marine. oneshooter Aug 2012 #44
This is false, and I can prove it. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #40
Does the NRA speak for you when they call for the defeat of President Obama? SecularMotion Aug 2012 #50
Nope. Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #52
Isn't that what ALL Lobbyists do? period. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #51
With "friends" like that, who needs enemies? Dr_Scholl Aug 2012 #62
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