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WCGreen

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59. During this same time frame, 25 years. the eradication of Lead in the environment
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:16 AM
Aug 2012

and abortions became easier to get.

With the removal of lead from paint, pipes and glass, the number of people suffering loss of empathy caused by ingesting lead has fallen. Also, more unwanted children are not being born to indifferent parents.

I'm sure most people in the gun lobby would love to believe that the increase of individuals with guns is the only reason for the drop in violent crime but the two other reasons I provided have been suggested as proven reasons.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/magazine/21wwln-idealab-t.html?_r=1

Has the Clean Air Act done more to fight crime than any other policy in American history? That is the claim of a new environmental theory of criminal behavior.

In the early 1990s, a surge in the number of teenagers threatened a crime wave of unprecedented proportions. But to the surprise of some experts, crime fell steadily instead. Many explanations have been offered in hindsight, including economic growth, the expansion of police forces, the rise of prison populations and the end of the crack epidemic. But no one knows exactly why crime declined so steeply.

The answer, according to Jessica Wolpaw Reyes, an economist at Amherst College, lies in the cleanup of a toxic chemical that affected nearly everyone in the United States for most of the last century. After moving out of an old townhouse in Boston when her first child was born in 2000, Reyes started looking into the effects of lead poisoning. She learned that even low levels of lead can cause brain damage that makes children less intelligent and, in some cases, more impulsive and aggressive. She also discovered that the main source of lead in the air and water had not been paint but rather leaded gasoline — until it was phased out in the 1970s and ’80s by the Clean Air Act, which took blood levels of lead for all Americans down to a fraction of what they had been. “Putting the two together,” she says, “it seemed that this big change in people’s exposure to lead might have led to some big changes in behavior.”




This article discusses the removal of lead from gasoline has done more to the decrease of violent crime.

Just something to think about...

Gun ownership up, crime down [View all] rDigital Aug 2012 OP
Well, if it isn't right-wing propaganda from the good old Washington Times! DanTex Aug 2012 #1
Nice dodge rDigital Aug 2012 #2
LOL. The issue is that you are posting right-wing propaganda! DanTex Aug 2012 #3
Umm discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #5
Thread disruption? The OP is an article from the Washington Times! DanTex Aug 2012 #6
While some may... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #9
Ever watch C SPAN Washington Journal? gejohnston Aug 2012 #15
Instead of bashing the source Missycim Aug 2012 #66
can you dispute the FBI statistic? gejohnston Aug 2012 #8
Come on, you know the FBI is funded by the NRA! nt Remmah2 Aug 2012 #96
What about the CDC and the BATFE? nt rDigital Sep 2012 #121
The FBI's UCR is RW propoganda? Equate Aug 2012 #20
FBI spelled backwards is NRA. nt Remmah2 Aug 2012 #84
So that's it. Equate Aug 2012 #85
I've never known numbers to carry a political bias 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #26
Really, I've known many that did. Pholus Aug 2012 #56
No you haven't 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #93
Numbers are synthesized, hence they can be political. Pholus Aug 2012 #98
Could you tell me the political slant of 4? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #99
Well, 6 is afraid of 7.... Pholus Aug 2012 #102
No, my dear Pholus 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #105
An understanding of real data is NEVER embarassing, thanks. Pholus Aug 2012 #109
Hmmmmm... TPaine7 Aug 2012 #30
I think I agree with Tex rock Aug 2012 #87
Washington Times spelled backwards is FOX? nt Remmah2 Aug 2012 #95
Looks like better law enforcement, surveillance, aging population, etc., is working. Hoyt Aug 2012 #4
Awesome 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #27
Ask families of victims of Zim, Stawicki, Loughner, Holmes and unreported intimidation by Hoyt Aug 2012 #38
Appeal to emotion 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #41
Every ad that helped sell you a gun, appealed to your emotions. Hoyt Aug 2012 #42
Not really. 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #43
A perfect application of your definition: Pholus Aug 2012 #67
However if skyrocketing gun ownership and concealed carry were large factors in the equation ... spin Aug 2012 #89
Cut and pasted NRA Talking points? Easily refuted.... Pholus Aug 2012 #7
But we can say that more guns did not lead to more violence, correct? hack89 Aug 2012 #10
Way to divert, but sorry that isn't the point of the OP. Pholus Aug 2012 #14
The problem everyone who legally buys a gun is a responsible gun-owner Homer12 Aug 2012 #16
And everyone who buys a car Equate Aug 2012 #21
At least the car driver had training. Pholus Aug 2012 #51
Which has nothing to do with my comment. Equate Aug 2012 #74
Perhaps the poorly written OP should have considered that instead. Pholus Aug 2012 #75
Ok, I'll concede that Equate Aug 2012 #76
You've stated a reasonable hypothesis. Pholus Aug 2012 #78
Very good post Equate Aug 2012 #81
So the problem is complicated, to say the least. Pholus Aug 2012 #97
I like your sentence 3 Equate Aug 2012 #107
As do I! Pholus Aug 2012 #111
Then why so many teenage driving related deaths? Remmah2 Aug 2012 #86
Who says the car driver "actually took a competency test first that had consequences for failure"? Jenoch Aug 2012 #103
Yes and the penalties are probably way too light. Pholus Aug 2012 #104
How about letting non violent drug offenders out on probation Equate Aug 2012 #108
As could I... nt Pholus Aug 2012 #112
Recently, Zimmy, Stawicki, Loughner, not sure about Holmes, good examples. Hoyt Aug 2012 #44
Eastwood and Bronson come to mind... Pholus Aug 2012 #52
That's not true. Jenoch Aug 2012 #106
Clearly the reasons for historically low levels of gun violence are many hack89 Aug 2012 #18
Actually, my magic rock is what protected us. Pholus Aug 2012 #47
So you have one of those too? Mine is grey with red specks. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #61
Yours sounds awesome! Nope mine is deep red with embedded quartz... Pholus Aug 2012 #64
and tigers. As well as dinosaurs. Pholus Aug 2012 #65
Damn Equate Aug 2012 #110
Where is this *only* coming from? TPaine7 Aug 2012 #24
Oooooh, Mr. Lawyer! What a brilliant loophole you found! Pholus Aug 2012 #49
You emphasized the "only" concept. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #113
Perhaps. You're weaving yourself quite nicely. Pholus Aug 2012 #114
You know what, I think you have a point. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #115
And I am sorry... Pholus Aug 2012 #117
No problem. No problem whatsoever. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #119
Every anecdote involving gun violence is proof that guns are the problems 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #28
Part of problem, and one big enough to need some change. Hoyt Aug 2012 #45
Wow, you get it! Pholus Aug 2012 #50
Not at all necessary ... spin Aug 2012 #91
I'll get right on that... Pholus Aug 2012 #101
No problem. (n/t) spin Aug 2012 #116
It forgot to mention that Mass Murder is up Homer12 Aug 2012 #11
rare events are anecdotes gejohnston Aug 2012 #17
Tell that to CERN... Pholus Aug 2012 #62
Do you remember a few years back when we had an epidemic of pretty white girls being kidnapped? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #29
And home invasions are down thanks to semi-autos capable of repelling multiple assailants. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #83
Will Rdigital champion the 2nd Adm rights of Mass Murderers? Homer12 Aug 2012 #12
waiting.... Homer12 Aug 2012 #13
Will Homer12 treat every American as a potential Mass Murderer? hack89 Aug 2012 #19
Are all gun owners guilty (????)until proven innocent? nt rDigital Aug 2012 #22
When they occupy the same room as me, yes. Pholus Aug 2012 #53
Must be nice Missycim Aug 2012 #69
I'm describing risk mitigation. Sorry you take it personally. Pholus Aug 2012 #70
Dont flatter yourself Missycim Aug 2012 #71
That's why we wouldn't meet in real life. I have standards. Pholus Aug 2012 #72
I dont seek Missycim Aug 2012 #73
If you were in the same room as me, Equate Aug 2012 #79
Ahh, but that merely marks you as more sane. Pholus Aug 2012 #80
And I have nothing but contempt for people like that Equate Aug 2012 #82
And based on *that* statement... Pholus Aug 2012 #100
Gun rights are not a partisan issue rDigital Aug 2012 #23
we are also getting more obese . . . I think that leads to less crime DrDan Aug 2012 #36
Interesting. I'd never thought of that, but it's probably a factor. Thanks! n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #37
Good point. Equate Aug 2012 #39
Crime down, gun ownership up. Bonhomme Richard Aug 2012 #25
so . . . do you think that the reason for this decrease is because of the increase in guns? DrDan Aug 2012 #31
Are the two statistics connected? JohnnyRingo Aug 2012 #32
The only thing that is clear is that more guns do not equal more violence hack89 Aug 2012 #40
I recall the argument in 2004 JohnnyRingo Aug 2012 #48
Thank you for writing that! Pholus Aug 2012 #55
I don't believe that more guns led to less gun violence hack89 Aug 2012 #68
that logic is SIMPLY BOGUS DrDan Aug 2012 #58
But we live in a less violent society by every measure hack89 Aug 2012 #63
Just don't go to the movies. liberal N proud Aug 2012 #33
College enrollment up, crime rates down. Arctic Dave Aug 2012 #34
I personally think more guns lead to obesity DrDan Aug 2012 #35
If someone were to make the argument that more ice cream necessarily means more crime 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #46
Only if you have a single independent variable. Pholus Aug 2012 #54
In this scenaro they have claimed it is only about the ice-cream 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #92
Hmm loansstore Aug 2012 #57
During this same time frame, 25 years. the eradication of Lead in the environment WCGreen Aug 2012 #59
Thank you! That is now number 8 on my list! Pholus Aug 2012 #60
Older Housing/Older Neighborhoods; Poverty Sucks Remmah2 Aug 2012 #88
with just a small chunk of that $800+ gejohnston Aug 2012 #90
I'd like to see the old neighborhoods torn down. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #94
The sun is up and the cock roaches scurry. Lint Head Aug 2012 #77
Wow bongbong Aug 2012 #118
The main premise rDigital Aug 2012 #120
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