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In reply to the discussion: NRA represents gun manufacturers — period [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)26. Most states that allow semiautomatic rifles to be used for hunting game such a deer ...
limit the size of the magazine to five rounds. I believe that in some states you can use a higher capacity magazine while hunting pests such as feral hogs.
I'm not a hunter but I have listened to many discuss their sport. Obviously the first shot is the most important but if a hunter does not drop his game with his first shot there may be some value to to rapid follow up shot or possibly two.
I understand NRA opposition to using the Terrorist Watch List to determine if a person should be allowed to buy a firearm. If it were an accurate list the NRA might have a different view. However even the New York Times has problems with the list.
Editorial
Antiterror Measures at Home
Published: October 1, 2011
One of the bitter lessons of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, was the need for better coordination and sharing of intelligence among the nations security agencies, to flag dangerous people entering the country. But there were also well-founded concerns about how well that system was working, and whether it was being abused.
Ten years later, files released by the F.B.I. under the Freedom of Information Act show that the governments bloated terrorist watch list remains a flawed security tool in need of greater transparency and accountability. There are longstanding concerns about implementation and accuracy, including the omission of names from the list that properly belong there. There also has been a persistent problem of flagging the wrong people including an 8-year-old and at least one senator who then have serious trouble getting their names removed.
The 91 pages of newly disclosed files, described by The Timess Charlie Savage last week, included a December 2010 memorandum to F.B.I. field offices revealing that even a not-guilty verdict may not always be enough to get someone off the list, if agents retain reasonable suspicion that the person might have ties to terrorism.
***snip***
But the unwieldy size of the database raises doubts. So does the disturbing absence of procedures to notify people who are on the watch list, or to give them a chance to see and challenge allegations against them. Inclusion on the watch list can keep people off planes, subject them to delays and extra invasive scrutiny at airports, traffic stops and border crossings, and prevent noncitizens from entering the country.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/opinion/sunday/antiterror-measures-at-home.html?_r=2&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
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That's obvious to anyone who has ever flipped through a copy of American Rifleman or American Hunter
slackmaster
Aug 2012
#1
Remember, *his* deadly weapons are somehow 'nicer' than "*those* peoples" deadly weapons...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#10
Problem is -- we do understand why you want access to "other firearms. " That's main reason for
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#63
The 4.3 million member are fairly happy with the NRA's representation of them.
GreenStormCloud
Aug 2012
#3
So you support an organization intent on defeating Obama and advancing right wing causes not even
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#30
Exercise you mind by looking at NRA leadership, then look up money they give to buy support.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#38
You are the one making the statement and, by your own words should be the one providing proof
rl6214
Aug 2012
#46
Yes I am. Certified Rifle instructor,Certified pistol instructor, Range officer,
oneshooter
Aug 2012
#43
Oneshooter, fact folks who view guns like you are instructing is another reason to oppose toting.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#66
He's also on record as being all for shooting teenagers in the back while they're running
Trunk Monkey
Aug 2012
#81
You talking about ARMED sammy weaver, who his dad hid behind while evading federal marshals?
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#88
We should aspire to Australia's laws - of course, many gun cultists couldn't handle it.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#71
Other than you and a few others, sounds like vast majority of citizens are satisfied with laws.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#80
Ever notice how gun sales and the NRA's popularity all go up whenever some politician even hints
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#15
It's funny, and sad, how some hunters think they are somehow a majority of gun owners
benEzra
Aug 2012
#16
Most states that allow semiautomatic rifles to be used for hunting game such a deer ...
spin
Aug 2012
#26
Quite obvious, but expect its wind-up doll defenders on this site to claim otherwise...
villager
Aug 2012
#27
Except, repeating this mantra is part of that "wind-up doll" rhetoric I was talking about
villager
Aug 2012
#48
It's like being a "sensible" Republican. The "party apparatus" you're in will never allow policies
villager
Aug 2012
#53
Yes, only the NRA -- not the CDC! -- can be trusted to talk "honestly" about guns!
villager
Aug 2012
#58
And of course, to the NRA, all research contradicting their world views is "advocacy"
villager
Aug 2012
#77
So you agree then the NRA should quit trying to block other studies and let the results
villager
Aug 2012
#79
I own two modified cars, a 85.5 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe, and a 01 Mustang GT
virginia mountainman
Aug 2012
#45
It's no different than ALEC. When it began it was geared toward gun safety. Now it's just
Lint Head
Aug 2012
#34
Does the NRA speak for you when they call for the defeat of President Obama?
SecularMotion
Aug 2012
#50