Gun Control & RKBA

GreenStormCloud

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60. Calling something a "talking point" is not a rebuttal.

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 08:48 AM

Aug 2012

You are simply ducking the debate. We are winning because we use facts and logic while all you have is personal attacks and name-calling.

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That Pesky Assault Rifle Ban [View all] rDigital Aug 2012 OP

Dude, scary rifles that have a shoulder thing that goes up shadowrider Aug 2012 #1

and they fire those gejohnston Aug 2012 #2

Isn't bayonet death #3 in U.S death statistics? Or is that M203 launched grenades? braddy Aug 2012 #3

Ummm.....no.... rDigital Aug 2012 #4

Who won the Alien vs Predator bout, anyway? leveymg Aug 2012 #78

One on one, the predator always wins. rDigital Aug 2012 #83

Not against Schwartzenegger, if I recall. leveymg Aug 2012 #93

IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #100

If looks could kill . . . she wins hands-down. leveymg Aug 2012 #104

Black markets and supply/demand economics 101 Ya Basta Aug 2012 #5

Maybe so, until we change society's view of those who covet and carry lethal weapons. Hoyt Aug 2012 #7

Does that include the police and military? Ya Basta Aug 2012 #12

Why does every newbee gun lover ask that same stupid question? Hoyt Aug 2012 #13

Maybe because its a relevant question in response to your ridiculous statement. Ya Basta Aug 2012 #16

Probably because you never answer it. n/t PavePusher Aug 2012 #39

We've all read 'Rules for Radicals' and ridicule isn't an answer on DU. rDigital Aug 2012 #47

Simple, police, etc., have close government oversight and are regulated better than gun crowd. Hoyt Aug 2012 #48

Please, tell me more of my opinions! Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #49

Please correct me where I am wrong. Hoyt Aug 2012 #50

One thing you repeat incessantly Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #51

Talk to NRA leadership like Grover Norquist who restricts funds for mental health, yet allows easy Hoyt Aug 2012 #58

I have never seen anything concerning norquist or his ability to restrict rl6214 Aug 2012 #73

You can't be that dense. Because of Norquist's hold on Republicans regarding tax increases Hoyt Aug 2012 #75

talk about being dense rl6214 Aug 2012 #96

You can't regulate or legislate morality. rDigital Aug 2012 #54

Woo Bum-kon was his name. Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #57

I really don't care, "pal," what right wing gun crowd thinks. Hoyt Aug 2012 #59

Cool non-sequitur, bro. Cool false dilemma, bro. NT rDigital Aug 2012 #63

NRA Talking Point #14 bongbong Aug 2012 #31

Debunked by who? Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #32

Calling something a "talking point" is not a rebuttal. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #60

The NRA does oppose new gun laws such as another "assault weapons" ban ... spin Aug 2012 #64

You won't get an answer from that one because you provide a fact based rl6214 Aug 2012 #74

I've found by posting on DU in the Gungeon ... spin Aug 2012 #80

Talk about "tired and debunked." HALO141 Aug 2012 #82

It's easy to debunk a straw man Euromutt Sep 2012 #108

There was never any intention of stopping with the AWB 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #6

Yea, those damn bush Republicans were always looking out for what is best for society. Hoyt Aug 2012 #8

If you say so, gejohnston Aug 2012 #10

LMAO HALO141 Aug 2012 #84

If it is cosmetic, why do so many sick right wingers love them? Hoyt Aug 2012 #9

Gee, I dunno Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #11

"Pretty clothes" aren't the same as pretty/sexy lethal weapons you guys love. Hoyt Aug 2012 #14

So much fail Ya Basta Aug 2012 #17

I like my AR-15 because it is lightweight, accurate, and reliable. Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #19

If it keeps such guns out of circulation, restrictions are worth it. Hoyt Aug 2012 #20

none of those examples would be illegal conversions gejohnston Aug 2012 #21

Law and its observance isn't inherently good. Pacafishmate Aug 2012 #22

"thinking critically?"- Is that what you call strapping a gun on before venturing into public? Hoyt Aug 2012 #28

Wait, what's this thread about? Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #30

I suspect most folks into such guns have carried, permitted or not. Hoyt Aug 2012 #33

I had carried before ohio passed it's CCW laws... so what? OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #36

And Freepers suspect most Muslims are terrorists Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #41

So says the gun haters, criminals and black market Ya Basta Aug 2012 #24

Sorry, guns are not the same as real Civil Rights. Hoyt Aug 2012 #29

Sorry, but the 2nd Amendment is a civil right Mr. Movinggoalposts. ;) Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #68

Thank you for your contribution. Everyone here should have a voice on this subject. Nt rDigital Aug 2012 #106

You are.... PavePusher Aug 2012 #40

So because I own a gun, I'm a criminal, and would likely convert it to an illegal gun? Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #44

ARs don't really appeal to me, but there's no accounting for taste. Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #25

If you can't see the beauty in these, you are a lost cause. oneshooter Aug 2012 #94

Fashions change. In the 1950's the fashion was to sporterize military rifles. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #15

Gun haute couture. Now that is funny. Sick, but funny. Hoyt Aug 2012 #18

He who is without sin should cast the first stone. Pacafishmate Aug 2012 #23

I think we need to change image of today's gun culture. Hoyt Aug 2012 #27

Today's gun culture is not the same as you imagine the gun culture is rl6214 Aug 2012 #81

Speaking of shortcomings.... virginia mountainman Aug 2012 #34

lol... (n/t) OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #37

You've got to be kidding me? This is comedy gold. nt rDigital Aug 2012 #45

If you liked that one, check out his advocacy of vigilantism: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #67

Well, that's interesting twizzler Aug 2012 #92

exactly... I try and explain that to non-gun people all the time belcffub Aug 2012 #97

Are you Bill Frist? It's been a while since I read a long-distance diagnosis... spayneuter Aug 2012 #69

You mean you don't know? HALO141 Aug 2012 #85

I think the answer is more basic - love of guns capable of intimidating and killing lots of people. Hoyt Aug 2012 #86

Intimidating who, exactly? HALO141 Aug 2012 #87

By that logic spoilers on sedans must be functional 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #99

Just ban all fucking guns. Works for me. MotherPetrie Aug 2012 #26

Just ban all fucking crime. Works for me. Marinedem Aug 2012 #38

Except, of course, for weapons in the hands of government employees slackmaster Aug 2012 #62

You might consider moving to Jamaica where they did just that. You might even be able to escape the spayneuter Aug 2012 #70

I would as well, if my guns ever fucked anything. AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #89

Not GUNna happen. HALO141 Aug 2012 #90

Great Post, and it really lays the truth of just how silly that law was..NT virginia mountainman Aug 2012 #35

To be fair.... PavePusher Aug 2012 #42

Yes, folks need an ergonomic, portable, concealable, rapid fire, hi capacity lethal weapon to enjoy. Hoyt Aug 2012 #77

I'm assuming you believed you said something meaningful or relevent there... PavePusher Aug 2012 #79

Yeah......but it made people feel better...and we want happy people....right? ileus Aug 2012 #43

They want people to think they legitimately care about their safety. rDigital Aug 2012 #46

Good post. Let's go for the gold and at the very least get the "B" taken out of 2A Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #52

The B? gejohnston Aug 2012 #53

No they are not (kinda in between), but what does that have to do with the "B"? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #55

perhaps but gejohnston Aug 2012 #56

They should. Wales too. It's a democracy. If they want it, they'll get it. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #65

Texas? gejohnston Aug 2012 #66

There are lots of cool people everywhere, even England. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #72

Talk is cheap. Clames Aug 2012 #71

Not to cast asparagus on anyone, but there are a lot of new people with 2-digit post counts today slackmaster Aug 2012 #61

Some good points. So, ban semi-autos and detachable clips, already. leveymg Aug 2012 #76

This would be functionally impossible discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #88

A ban on Jenoch Aug 2012 #91

The M1 uses a "en-block" clip. It automaticly"detaches" at the last shot. oneshooter Aug 2012 #95

If you will note Jenoch Aug 2012 #98

So if this Clinton era legislation was as meaningless thucythucy Aug 2012 #101

It was rDigital Aug 2012 #102

very simple gejohnston Aug 2012 #103

It's interesting that many of the same people thucythucy Aug 2012 #105

The Patriot Act is one of the slimiest anti-4th amendment pieces of legislation in U.S. history. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #107