Gun Control & RKBA

Missycim

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121. Ok this is a dumb questions but

Reply to ManiacJoe (Reply #57)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:30 AM

Jul 2012

why do Pro gun-control people say it means something else all together?

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Incrementalism. [View all] Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 OP

Things like RPGs and ICBMs are still illegal. Cary Jul 2012 #1

RPGs can be had. jeepnstein Jul 2012 #3

A quick Google shows Cary Jul 2012 #5

You don't have to notify anyone to fire an RPG. jeepnstein Jul 2012 #6

You are assuming I buy the NRA interpretation of the Second Amendment. Cary Jul 2012 #8

There's the problem, right there. jeepnstein Jul 2012 #9

Nice ad hominem Cary Jul 2012 #11

While your opinion may be relevant Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #32

"It isn't correct." Cary Jul 2012 #36

didnt the term "well-regulated Missycim Jul 2012 #40

Yes, it did. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #57

Then you ought to have some links. Cary Jul 2012 #59

perhaps this will help: Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #63

If the militia is yieilding Cary Jul 2012 #76

over half of those are suicides gejohnston Jul 2012 #79

if the militia is not in proper working order it is not the gun's fault. I would suggest to you: Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #82

Overused slogans are no substitute for real analysis and real debate Cary Jul 2012 #115

that you do can not comprehend is not my problem. Have A Nice Day! Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #129

Ok this is a dumb questions but Missycim Jul 2012 #121

I THINK they are assuming modern usage Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #126

Because the phrase is not used in today's English. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #132

No pain at all. jeepnstein Jul 2012 #38

"The right side?" Cary Jul 2012 #39

less than honest. gejohnston Jul 2012 #47

Alabama alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #71

I agree gejohnston Jul 2012 #73

Nope bongbong Jul 2012 #127

That horse is dead. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #12

You too? Cary Jul 2012 #13

He didn't state an opinion permatex Jul 2012 #16

I never said that the Supreme Court hasn't ruled Cary Jul 2012 #18

Very rarely will the SCOTUS revisit settled law permatex Jul 2012 #20

Hang my hat? Cary Jul 2012 #22

You are aware that all 9 justices agreed that the permatex Jul 2012 #24

Where did I say it wasn't an individual right? Cary Jul 2012 #30

a vote either way would have been gejohnston Jul 2012 #29

SCOTUS also decided that corporations are people Doctor_J Jul 2012 #41

Deal with reality. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #28

I have stated no facts. Cary Jul 2012 #35

At one time, Plessy v. Ferguson and Dred Scot v. Sanford were also protected by stare decisis.... lastlib Jul 2012 #65

but reasonalbe restrictions is allowed gejohnston Jul 2012 #72

Pretty sure ICBM's can be had, too. HALO141 Jul 2012 #7

I use to own an IBM Remmah2 Jul 2012 #123

You bastard. HALO141 Jul 2012 #128

I had a Smith Corona gejohnston Jul 2012 #130

I've typed on carbon paper! Remmah2 Jul 2012 #134

Rocket launchers are legal, rockets are controlled. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #10

Good grief. Cary Jul 2012 #14

Prospect of gun control? gejohnston Jul 2012 #15

Obviously you didn't hear the interview Cary Jul 2012 #17

Ummmmmmmm permatex Jul 2012 #26

More pain in the future? permatex Jul 2012 #19

Explain to me why these people are jumping down my throat for not toeing the NRA line. n/t Cary Jul 2012 #21

We don't toe the NRA line here permatex Jul 2012 #23

Not only are you guilty of ad hominem, Cary Jul 2012 #25

Typical permatex Jul 2012 #27

Look at you Cary Jul 2012 #33

Difference is I'm not getting snarky with you permatex Jul 2012 #44

Defending my right to have an opinion that differs from yours is not snark Cary Jul 2012 #46

Dont forget.. Missycim Jul 2012 #42

The prospects for future gun control are quite bleak. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #31

So why are you all getting so upset about any discussion about it? Cary Jul 2012 #34

Your intent and actions do not match in this thread. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #52

I give you people credit Cary Jul 2012 #58

Firearms and their laws are a technical discussion. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #61

I have a J.D., Cary Jul 2012 #64

Be that as it may, ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #66

Your error is in your irrational assertion that I have made either Cary Jul 2012 #68

Your posts #1 and #5 for starters on "facts". ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #84

My statements were sufficient correct for the purpose for which I offer them. Cary Jul 2012 #88

Not upset. I enjoy exposing the fallicy of gun-controllers. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #85

No one is contesting that the NRA owns the government Doctor_J Jul 2012 #43

Not a logical fallicy at all, but simply an explanation. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #45

are ICBMs illegal? gejohnston Jul 2012 #89

There's only one goal...all the others are just fluff. ileus Jul 2012 #2

how's that total ban on illegal drugs working? alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #75

K&R n/t guardian Jul 2012 #4

My biggest issue with you and people who take issue with "the gun control crowd" Cary Jul 2012 #37

Emotional arguement Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #48

All I know is that I expressed my opinion Cary Jul 2012 #49

the words "A well-regulated militia" have meaning. Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #51

So you're saying that because you declare that it "has been established" Cary Jul 2012 #54

We are happy to let you have your opinion. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #56

"We"??? Cary Jul 2012 #60

You don't, but thanks for asking. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #62

I increase my knowledge all the time Cary Jul 2012 #67

so long as the gun control lobby alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #78

You all keep changing the subject Cary Jul 2012 #55

yes we do need an honest dialogue gejohnston Jul 2012 #70

I am very much of the left Cary Jul 2012 #74

didn't say you did gejohnston Jul 2012 #77

"Conservatives", Alex Jones, Republicans and the NRA have no credibility Cary Jul 2012 #87

extraordinary arsenals alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #90

"I love that you are..." Cary Jul 2012 #91

says the pot to the kettle. alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #93

There are people here who can hold a real discussion on this issue. Cary Jul 2012 #96

when you have time to research the issues and know what you are talking about like a grownup... alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #98

Don't count on it newbie. Cary Jul 2012 #102

I didn't say Jones or the NRA had any at all gejohnston Jul 2012 #95

Your understand of how law enforcement works is not accurate. Cary Jul 2012 #97

but they didn't, why didn't they go to US attorney? gejohnston Jul 2012 #99

I have several friends who are Assistant U.S. Attorneys. Cary Jul 2012 #101

let me repeat what I describe the lie by ommission gejohnston Jul 2012 #104

But there are a lot of articles out there that make the same argument that Thom makes Cary Jul 2012 #105

doesn't make them true. gejohnston Jul 2012 #107

At this point, with all of the "conservative" fake scandals, it's a little like crying wolf Cary Jul 2012 #109

Might be White water part two, gejohnston Jul 2012 #111

Might be Whitewater part two or maybe not gejohnston Jul 2012 #131

And while you're at it you ought to read this: Cary Jul 2012 #103

I read it gejohnston Jul 2012 #106

I never said anything about you having to be xx Cary Jul 2012 #108

you missed my point gejohnston Jul 2012 #110

Okay, I believe you and apologize for equating you with the Ayn Rand cult of Ron Paul Cary Jul 2012 #122

accepted gejohnston Jul 2012 #124

the fact that we all agree does not mean that we "coordinate" anything. alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #80

It's not your agreement that tipped me off Cary Jul 2012 #86

well, since I don't know any of the people on this board... alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #92

what "tactics and strategies" are people using? alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #94

"We clearly have a big problem It may/may not be that we have a problem because of assault rifles" EX500rider Jul 2012 #100

Exactly correct 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #50

problem janlyn Jul 2012 #53

exactly...anti 2Aers are trying to solve the wrong problem. welcome to DU Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #69

Switzerland is not a good example. Democracyinkind Jul 2012 #81

for one thing gejohnston Jul 2012 #83

Well yeah. Democracyinkind Jul 2012 #112

As if someone like Holmes, Loughner, or Cho care about what the govt does to them afterwards Angleae Jul 2012 #113

Holmes couldn't have done what he did with my kind of rifle. Democracyinkind Jul 2012 #114

How is the gun they give you different than a gun you buy? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #116

Firstly, it isn't mine, it's the government's. Democracyinkind Jul 2012 #117

If you were planning on shooting up a movie theater 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #118

Maybe that's why I didn't claim it would have hindered anything? Democracyinkind Jul 2012 #119

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in Switzerland you can own non-automatic civilian AR-15's and such benEzra Jul 2012 #120

Their real ultimate goal? armueller2001 Jul 2012 #125

correct. alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #133