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Gun Control & RKBA

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)

21. Interesting premise.

Reply to rfranklin (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:14 PM

Jul 2012

That idea that citizens will defend the state with their personal firearms in this day and age is ludicrous.

Lybia and Syria seem to have missed your message. And they don't even have a Second Amendment. How weird is that?

Fortunately we are a long way from needing to do that and, hopefully, that time will not come.

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The security of a free state. [View all] needledriver Jul 2012 OP

2a individualist don't recognize or won't - that xchrom Jul 2012 #1

You and I are part of the state. If we are not secure, the state is not secure. slackmaster Jul 2012 #15

That model of "securing the a free state" has not been operable for many years... rfranklin Jul 2012 #2

It wasn't the model for the Confederate Army gejohnston Jul 2012 #4

I beg to differ... rfranklin Jul 2012 #9

a couple of units gejohnston Jul 2012 #10

Well, I guess that makes my point about the militia and citizen's arms... rfranklin Jul 2012 #12

Actually gejohnston Jul 2012 #16

Switzerland has had the good sense to stay out wars... rfranklin Jul 2012 #17

They don't have an empire gejohnston Jul 2012 #19

The security of a free state is served by the militia when AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #20

That would be the security of "free enterprise", not "a free state" Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #22

I disrespectfully disagree. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #24

Interesting premise. PavePusher Jul 2012 #21

You have a good point and you are right SoutherDem Jul 2012 #3

What the FF had in mind, among other things gejohnston Jul 2012 #5

Even more important that what the FF thought, IMO, is what the Framers of the 14th Am. thought. TPaine7 Jul 2012 #6

Did the Founding Fathers sav99 Jul 2012 #7

Yes. I don't have time to give you the best citations, so this is just an easy starting point. TPaine7 Jul 2012 #8

At the beginning of WWII DWC Jul 2012 #11

Yes, but too many think the 2nd Amendment allows them to challenge the duly elected govt. rfranklin Jul 2012 #13

The only way anyone can know DWC Jul 2012 #18

I wasn't out on the street threatening my elected officials but Republican candidates and... rfranklin Jul 2012 #23

Confusing 2nd amendment rights with politics DWC Jul 2012 #25

Sorry but I never said any such thing... rfranklin Jul 2012 #26

The security of a free state includes security of individuals, families, neighborhoods, towns, etc. slackmaster Jul 2012 #14