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Gun Control & RKBA

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)

7. That horse you're beating....

Reply to DanTex (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 04:19 PM

Jun 2012

it ceased all activity long ago.

We'll have to wait for the court verdict, of course, but it's been shown many times that Z may not have been legally acting defensively, so SYG would not apply.

And please let us know how to determine the intent of criminals in advance, with your bonded guarantee.

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....the primary impact of SYG is to increase the loss of human life…… [View all] russ1943 Jun 2012 OP

Gosh, it's so horrible that people are allowed to defend themselves. TheWraith Jun 2012 #1

Amen, Brother Wraith! Hells Liberal Jun 2012 #3

Another study... rrneck Jun 2012 #2

Rude practitioners of a hateful science... ileus Jun 2012 #4

Interesting. The usual suspects will arrive shortly with their head-in-the-sand denialism... DanTex Jun 2012 #5

That horse you're beating.... PavePusher Jun 2012 #7

Hmmm. Callisto32 Jun 2012 #10

Actually, they used the "differences in differences" method. DanTex Jun 2012 #11

Indeed. Callisto32 Jun 2012 #13

Well, apparently it was enough time, because at that time scale they found a statistically... DanTex Jun 2012 #15

Go look at the raw crime rate data for these states. Callisto32 Jun 2012 #16

That's not how statistical significance works. DanTex Jun 2012 #18

Dude: Callisto32 Jun 2012 #26

Dude! DanTex Jun 2012 #28

I bet you would... TPaine7 Jun 2012 #20

The pathetic thing is that no one would mind if police killed more armed people who were pointing TPaine7 Jun 2012 #22

So, it seems that some homocides that were being wrongly treated as murders... PavePusher Jun 2012 #6

Wrong. DanTex Jun 2012 #8

They aren't necessarily due to the SYG laws either. Callisto32 Jun 2012 #12

Actually, yes, according to the study, they are due to SYG. DanTex Jun 2012 #14

the very first sentence is demonstrably false gejohnston Jun 2012 #9

So more criminals are getting killed? OK nt hack89 Jun 2012 #17

this is an honest question gejohnston Jun 2012 #19

I wonder how they account for economic recession? OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #21

How to they quantify the number of predatory criminals not killed by their potential victims? SkatmanRoth Jun 2012 #23

Or...is SYG about protecting life ileus Jun 2012 #24

Interesting. Per wikipedia, the only published, refereed academic study shows 9% murder decline TPaine7 Jun 2012 #25

Details ebb and flow, but at the end of the day the probability of death remains exactly 1 slackmaster Jun 2012 #27