Gun Control & RKBA

DrDan

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67. certain groups can be denied a right - for example felons

Reply to Glaug-Eldare (Reply #66)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 11:40 AM

Jun 2012

Yes - other rights can be restricted, limited or denied.

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The NRA Should Keep Its Hands Off My Gun Ownership [View all] Meiko Jun 2012 OP

Keep away from those of us who want nothing to do with YOUR guns HockeyMom Jun 2012 #1

And which "rights" are those? oneshooter Jun 2012 #2

I'm interested in seeing that too. I don't remember anything in the BoR, do you? shadowrider Jun 2012 #5

inalienable rights - ever hear of 'em? DrDan Jun 2012 #6

What "right" is being taken away? n/t shadowrider Jun 2012 #12

you know the answer to that - everyone's right to safety DrDan Jun 2012 #14

"everyone's right to safety" Can you show me where that "right" is enumerated? oneshooter Jun 2012 #15

the SCOTUS has clearly stated congress has the right to limit rights in the interest of safety DrDan Jun 2012 #27

Are you referring to firearms ownership in general, or just carry? Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #28

and that right can be limited per the Supreme Court DrDan Jun 2012 #36

Limited, but not abolished Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #42

it can be denied DrDan Jun 2012 #50

No, it cannot - not unless the citizen is afflicted with mental illness or does something stupid derby378 Jun 2012 #63

Doesn't seem to have a good grasp SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #64

commit a felony and see what happens to your 2A rights DrDan Jun 2012 #75

And you can petition the courts for a restoration of those rights. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #77

up until the court grants your request, you have been denied DrDan Jun 2012 #78

felons can be denied gun ownership . . . as can minors DrDan Jun 2012 #68

Then why didn't you say that in the first place? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #76

Well, what's the difference between "denied" and "abolished?" Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #66

certain groups can be denied a right - for example felons DrDan Jun 2012 #67

Well, let's take speech. Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #71

so? DrDan Jun 2012 #72

It appears I don't quite understand your position, then Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #73

my point is that rights are not absolute. The SCOTUS has DrDan Jun 2012 #74

Ahhh, I gotcha. Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #83

Does not reference a"right to safety" in the text. Try again. oneshooter Jun 2012 #32

so laws protecting public safety are unconstitutional? DrDan Jun 2012 #38

Read carefully, I did NOT say, or imply that. oneshooter Jun 2012 #44

there are laws protecting public safety . . . do you deny their existence? DrDan Jun 2012 #49

first you have to prove a threat to public safety gejohnston Jun 2012 #54

and many do DrDan Jun 2012 #57

these old anti concealed carry laws did not gejohnston Jun 2012 #60

Hmmmmmmm SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #16

hmmmmmmm - SCOTUS seems to recognize it DrDan Jun 2012 #25

Hmmmmmmmmmm SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #30

I am not surprised at all by that - in fact I expected it - DrDan Jun 2012 #37

I have another site? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #39

couldn't agree with you more DrDan Jun 2012 #4

No. Clames Jun 2012 #7

Who pointed a gun at your life, liberty or pursuit of happiness? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #8

Nope SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #10

Perhaps you could buy a sandwich board Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #13

What Meiko Jun 2012 #17

It's like trying to find a range you sharp_stick Jun 2012 #3

Range owners use the NRA insurance. It's a lot less expensive than others. oneshooter Jun 2012 #9

I know sharp_stick Jun 2012 #11

That was pretty much my experience at last gun show I went to years ago. A bunch of militia types Hoyt Jun 2012 #18

Yeah, right SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #19

Sorry, that is my experience. Next time you go, take a good look around and tell me differently. Hoyt Jun 2012 #20

A few comments and questions Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #21

Interesting response. But not surprising. Hoyt Jun 2012 #23

Like I said SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #26

Well you lie to other on DU. So why should anybody here believe you. oneshooter Jun 2012 #22

True, they did sell THE TURNER DIARIES at Texas gun shows many years ago derby378 Jun 2012 #65

Keep your friends close.......... Simo 1939_1940 Jun 2012 #69

Loaded firearms are never allowed at gun shows Meiko Jun 2012 #24

Yeah, it definitely seems prudent. Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #29

Yet you guys support laws that let folks carry them on streets, in parks, restaurants, bars, etc. Hoyt Jun 2012 #31

Why should we pay any attention to you. You lie. oneshooter Jun 2012 #33

I'm not posting to you Oneshooter. Obviously guns are gods to you. Hoyt Jun 2012 #35

Why should we believe a word you say? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #40

bwaaahaaaaaa DrDan Jun 2012 #41

I only post snark in response to bullshit posts SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #46

I am under no obligation to do anything of the sort - it shall remain DrDan Jun 2012 #48

Just as I thought SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #51

no obligation to do so DrDan Jun 2012 #52

Stated where? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #53

very simple - I have an interest in Public Safety (that is part of the overall topic you know) DrDan Jun 2012 #55

And for every one of you, there are hundreds of us SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #56

and your point is? DrDan Jun 2012 #58

Talk about something going whoosh, right over your head SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #59

no no . . . I understand DrDan Jun 2012 #61

And there are those of us who truly believe in what we are doing. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #62

so you would work AGAINST these good Democrats in their efforts DrDan Jun 2012 #70

Nice putting of words in my mouth SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #79

let me remind you of EXACTLY what you said DrDan Jun 2012 #80

So in other words, again, you have squat. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #81

got it - so you oppose the efforts of these Dems DrDan Jun 2012 #82

You want to keep lying about what I said SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #85

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That's unnecessary, bud Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #45

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Because guns are not frequently handled on streets, in parks, restaurants, bars, etc. Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #34

I am having a hard time Meiko Jun 2012 #84

And they accuse us of being paranoid SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #86