Gun Control & RKBA

SGMRTDARMY

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59. Talk about something going whoosh, right over your head

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:53 AM

Jun 2012

I'm on that side of the 2ND Amendment issue because I believe it, nothing to do with the majority.
This is exactly why your side is losing and losing badly, you fail to grasp how committed we are and how strong we are.
Like I said, We will never go back to pre-94, y'all had your time, now it's our time and we have the numbers on our side.
But, hey, good luck with trying to pass more gun control laws. I'll be laughing my ass off as your side fails and there is more hand wringing as witnessed by some of your fellow posters here.

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The NRA Should Keep Its Hands Off My Gun Ownership [View all] Meiko Jun 2012 OP

Keep away from those of us who want nothing to do with YOUR guns HockeyMom Jun 2012 #1

And which "rights" are those? oneshooter Jun 2012 #2

I'm interested in seeing that too. I don't remember anything in the BoR, do you? shadowrider Jun 2012 #5

inalienable rights - ever hear of 'em? DrDan Jun 2012 #6

What "right" is being taken away? n/t shadowrider Jun 2012 #12

you know the answer to that - everyone's right to safety DrDan Jun 2012 #14

"everyone's right to safety" Can you show me where that "right" is enumerated? oneshooter Jun 2012 #15

the SCOTUS has clearly stated congress has the right to limit rights in the interest of safety DrDan Jun 2012 #27

Are you referring to firearms ownership in general, or just carry? Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #28

and that right can be limited per the Supreme Court DrDan Jun 2012 #36

Limited, but not abolished Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #42

it can be denied DrDan Jun 2012 #50

No, it cannot - not unless the citizen is afflicted with mental illness or does something stupid derby378 Jun 2012 #63

Doesn't seem to have a good grasp SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #64

commit a felony and see what happens to your 2A rights DrDan Jun 2012 #75

And you can petition the courts for a restoration of those rights. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #77

up until the court grants your request, you have been denied DrDan Jun 2012 #78

felons can be denied gun ownership . . . as can minors DrDan Jun 2012 #68

Then why didn't you say that in the first place? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #76

Well, what's the difference between "denied" and "abolished?" Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #66

certain groups can be denied a right - for example felons DrDan Jun 2012 #67

Well, let's take speech. Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #71

so? DrDan Jun 2012 #72

It appears I don't quite understand your position, then Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #73

my point is that rights are not absolute. The SCOTUS has DrDan Jun 2012 #74

Ahhh, I gotcha. Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #83

Does not reference a"right to safety" in the text. Try again. oneshooter Jun 2012 #32

so laws protecting public safety are unconstitutional? DrDan Jun 2012 #38

Read carefully, I did NOT say, or imply that. oneshooter Jun 2012 #44

there are laws protecting public safety . . . do you deny their existence? DrDan Jun 2012 #49

first you have to prove a threat to public safety gejohnston Jun 2012 #54

and many do DrDan Jun 2012 #57

these old anti concealed carry laws did not gejohnston Jun 2012 #60

Hmmmmmmm SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #16

hmmmmmmm - SCOTUS seems to recognize it DrDan Jun 2012 #25

Hmmmmmmmmmm SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #30

I am not surprised at all by that - in fact I expected it - DrDan Jun 2012 #37

I have another site? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #39

couldn't agree with you more DrDan Jun 2012 #4

No. Clames Jun 2012 #7

Who pointed a gun at your life, liberty or pursuit of happiness? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #8

Nope SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #10

Perhaps you could buy a sandwich board Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #13

What Meiko Jun 2012 #17

It's like trying to find a range you sharp_stick Jun 2012 #3

Range owners use the NRA insurance. It's a lot less expensive than others. oneshooter Jun 2012 #9

I know sharp_stick Jun 2012 #11

That was pretty much my experience at last gun show I went to years ago. A bunch of militia types Hoyt Jun 2012 #18

Yeah, right SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #19

Sorry, that is my experience. Next time you go, take a good look around and tell me differently. Hoyt Jun 2012 #20

A few comments and questions Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #21

Interesting response. But not surprising. Hoyt Jun 2012 #23

Like I said SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #26

Well you lie to other on DU. So why should anybody here believe you. oneshooter Jun 2012 #22

True, they did sell THE TURNER DIARIES at Texas gun shows many years ago derby378 Jun 2012 #65

Keep your friends close.......... Simo 1939_1940 Jun 2012 #69

Loaded firearms are never allowed at gun shows Meiko Jun 2012 #24

Yeah, it definitely seems prudent. Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #29

Yet you guys support laws that let folks carry them on streets, in parks, restaurants, bars, etc. Hoyt Jun 2012 #31

Why should we pay any attention to you. You lie. oneshooter Jun 2012 #33

I'm not posting to you Oneshooter. Obviously guns are gods to you. Hoyt Jun 2012 #35

Why should we believe a word you say? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #40

bwaaahaaaaaa DrDan Jun 2012 #41

I only post snark in response to bullshit posts SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #46

I am under no obligation to do anything of the sort - it shall remain DrDan Jun 2012 #48

Just as I thought SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #51

no obligation to do so DrDan Jun 2012 #52

Stated where? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #53

very simple - I have an interest in Public Safety (that is part of the overall topic you know) DrDan Jun 2012 #55

And for every one of you, there are hundreds of us SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #56

and your point is? DrDan Jun 2012 #58

Talk about something going whoosh, right over your head SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #59

no no . . . I understand DrDan Jun 2012 #61

And there are those of us who truly believe in what we are doing. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #62

so you would work AGAINST these good Democrats in their efforts DrDan Jun 2012 #70

Nice putting of words in my mouth SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #79

let me remind you of EXACTLY what you said DrDan Jun 2012 #80

So in other words, again, you have squat. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #81

got it - so you oppose the efforts of these Dems DrDan Jun 2012 #82

You want to keep lying about what I said SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #85

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That's unnecessary, bud Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #45

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Because guns are not frequently handled on streets, in parks, restaurants, bars, etc. Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #34

I am having a hard time Meiko Jun 2012 #84

And they accuse us of being paranoid SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #86