Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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64. you have to understand the context

Tue May 8, 2012, 01:04 AM

May 2012

"A recent story posted on the notoriously liberal MSN website...Oh, the liberals will tell you that American’s demand for drugs is insatiable, so it is partly our problem. Well, closing the border stops that problem...

That is no different than Larry O'Donnell's anti-Mormon bigotry or Bill Mahar's misogyny or anti-Islamic bigotry.

I can hear the liberals now: “Armed citizens in Mexico would be blood flowing in the streets!”

refers to "Brady Bunch" whining if Mexico loosened its gun laws so law abiding Mexicans can defend themselves from the gangsters.

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Massad Ayoob discusses SYG and Castle Doctrine. [View all] PavePusher Apr 2012 OP

Bad Link Taitertots Apr 2012 #1

Excellent speech. very informative. N/T GreenStormCloud May 2012 #6

Fixed it, Thanks!! n/t PavePusher May 2012 #11

Links suxs. So does site. Hoyt Apr 2012 #2

I'm guessing gejohnston May 2012 #3

I'm pretty sure that he never opened the link. Just the name on it oneshooter May 2012 #20

Exactly correct. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #23

Link fixed. PavePusher May 2012 #13

Massad's definitely among the most level-headed authors Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #4

I gave a copy of "In the Gravest Extreme" to a friend who doesn't care for guns. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #16

As much as I distrust those who want to mandate training requirements here, Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #17

"Those morons need to wise up." Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #93

Excellent discussion of self defense and stand your ground law ... spin May 2012 #5

Great find, excellent speech. Thanks for sharing. ileus May 2012 #7

Taking note.... Xela May 2012 #8

Link fixed, Thanks! n/t PavePusher May 2012 #12

Great video! k&r ManiacJoe May 2012 #9

An excellent 16 minutes that addresses many points that have been brought up here. Atypical Liberal May 2012 #10

Here's the whole thing. Callisto32 May 2012 #14

Thanks, I hadn't had time to backtrack to that. PavePusher May 2012 #15

You win Best Thread of the Week. Congratulations ileus May 2012 #18

He is a very intelligent man! I love his attitude. I real all his stuff. n-t Logical May 2012 #19

What a lovely little website you've chosen to link to on Democratic Underground! apocalypsehow May 2012 #21

Do you agree with everything in any progressive media? gejohnston May 2012 #22

Go play logical fallacies (in this instance, *tu quoque*) with someone who's interested - I'm not. apocalypsehow May 2012 #25

Fewer. Callisto32 May 2012 #29

you played the first round gejohnston May 2012 #30

Once again, since you don't seem to grasp what you have read: address the content of my post, apocalypsehow May 2012 #36

I did gejohnston May 2012 #43

There were multiple racist rants on that site, notably in the editorial section. As you well know, apocalypsehow May 2012 #44

Please cite this racism you are seeing. PavePusher May 2012 #46

Please hie thee over to the website in question and look around. If you can't "see it," then we're apocalypsehow May 2012 #49

Your claim. Your responsibility to support your claim. PavePusher May 2012 #61

No, not my claim; not my "responsibility" to do anything. The website was linked in the OP, and the apocalypsehow May 2012 #65

Show the evidence of your claim or leave my thread. n/t PavePusher May 2012 #70

LOL. apocalypsehow May 2012 #74

And we are done. PavePusher May 2012 #79

"And we are done" - LOL! Good stuff - your concession is duly noted. As I had the facts on my side, apocalypsehow May 2012 #81

enjoy your delusion gejohnston May 2012 #83

Uh-huh. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #85

unfortunately, on DU3 bad manners are not an enforceable offense. Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #100

Ahhhh. Don't well up and cry on us. That jury made the unaminous right call, and you well know it. apocalypsehow May 2012 #102

I do not alert. and looks like you are the one shedding tears Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #104

Somebody did - as to "shedding tears," you're the one whining about how unfair it all is that a post apocalypsehow May 2012 #105

merely pointing out the hyprocrsiy in this group is all Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #106

No, you were not: you were moaning about a jury decision that didn't go your way. Here's what YOU apocalypsehow May 2012 #107

a statement of fact. the truth. Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #108

LOL - and now you are caught in a bare-faced contradiction: "I do not alert on DU3" (above) apocalypsehow May 2012 #110

you said it was alerted. I DO NOT ALERT. I DO NOT PLAY THESE STUPID REINDEER GAMES Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #111

Uh-huh. Riiiiiiggghhhttt..... apocalypsehow May 2012 #112

did someone alert on a post? gejohnston May 2012 #113

unless I misunderstand -- yes. the way I read post #102 by apocalypsehow it would seem that Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #124

I will rebut any stupid accusations made and dude you made one Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #117

Uh-huh. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #127

I'll bet gun sales would decline 50% or more if bigots quit buying them for "self-defense." Hoyt May 2012 #88

without bigots gejohnston May 2012 #89

You are correct sarisataka May 2012 #90

And yet you still own guns yourself... Clames May 2012 #94

Who do you think that liberal criminologist James Wright was referring to Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #114

I agree with Wright's use of the term "derviant cultures" in referring to those obsessed with guns. Hoyt May 2012 #115

ever meet a conservative sociologist? gejohnston May 2012 #116

We had more than a few outright racist sociologists where I grew up. Hoyt May 2012 #118

they way you described your part of Georgia gejohnston May 2012 #119

Some are probably followers of NRA and "The Turner Diaries." Hoyt May 2012 #120

When you were a kid, the NRA was nothing like the NRA of today gejohnston May 2012 #122

Yeah, it's a pain to do on a cell phone. Hoyt May 2012 #123

smart phones are over rated gejohnston May 2012 #125

So are hoyts. n/t PavePusher May 2012 #129

Point #1 - Wright put quotes around the words "deviant cultures" for a reason. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #121

"Wright self identifies" as liberal. I saw member of KKK say he was a "civil rights activist" too. Hoyt May 2012 #126

What?! You've claimed to "know", repeatedly. PavePusher May 2012 #130

I think you have described gun culture's rationalization for more guns in public. Hoyt May 2012 #131

So you really think Jimmy Carter would have appointed a group of pro-gun Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #132

What a lovely little genetic fallacy you've employed! Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #24

You need to read your own link, because it's obvious you don't grasp in what context a genetic apocalypsehow May 2012 #26

If it helps you, just ignore the web host. Either way, watch the video. ManiacJoe May 2012 #27

Not interested in watching videos from racists peddling bigotry, though I well understand how such apocalypsehow May 2012 #37

name one racist gejohnston May 2012 #45

Now you're changing the subject, because you don't want to be seen as defending the numerous racist apocalypsehow May 2012 #47

actually you did gejohnston May 2012 #53

Actually, I didn't, as any literate observer reading this subthread will see upon perusal. And the apocalypsehow May 2012 #55

The video isn't from gundigest.com Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #56

I don't care where the "video" was from, or what it's content was or is. You really do need to keep apocalypsehow May 2012 #58

"Tellarites do not argue for reasons. They simply argue." Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #60

Live long and prosper sarisataka May 2012 #62

actually I don't read it gejohnston May 2012 #57

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me, your inability to see racism where it obviously is. But what I apocalypsehow May 2012 #59

you have to understand the context gejohnston May 2012 #64

No, that's not how it works in the adult world: logical fallacies are for the playground, not grown apocalypsehow May 2012 #67

really? gejohnston May 2012 #77

Least entertaining argument ever Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #87

Link, please. n/t PavePusher May 2012 #66

The link has been provided in the OP - or did you miss perusing the OP? apocalypsehow May 2012 #69

I wrote the O.P. Show your evidence. n/t PavePusher May 2012 #71

"I wrote the O.P." - I know you did. Re-read my reply. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #76

See the clarification to my post. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #92

Isn't this just good stuff? Asked if racist websites should be linked here, and the content of their apocalypsehow May 2012 #63

You have not given evidence of racism. PavePusher May 2012 #68

Oh yes I have - the link is available. My "accusations" have been sustained with solid evidence. apocalypsehow May 2012 #72

Still waiting on that YES or NO, O.P. As the old song goes, "any day now..." apocalypsehow May 2012 #78

Still waiting on that YES or NO, BTW. Do you need me to repeat the question? apocalypsehow May 2012 #103

all simple answers are wrong gejohnston May 2012 #73

Now you're down to tautology. Somehow pitiful and laughable all at once. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #75

you still showed no gejohnston May 2012 #80

Oh yes I did. Repeatedly, for anyone who has access to those links. And can read. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #82

if you say so gejohnston May 2012 #84

Yeah, I've proved so. So does the "rest of the world" - that can read. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #86

Yes. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #31

Or you can be like Hoyt and just ignore it all, then make snide remarks about it. oneshooter May 2012 #32

So, you think linking to websites like Stormfront and other racist outlets is A-Okay on DU. Thanks apocalypsehow May 2012 #34

Show one example of someone linking to Stromfront gejohnston May 2012 #35

I just have. You really need to keep up. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #38

actually, gejohnston May 2012 #40

Actually, I have. Your willful refusal to read the plain text on the screen in front of you is an apocalypsehow May 2012 #42

no you have not gejohnston May 2012 #50

Yes, I have. And you well know it. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #52

May I point out sarisataka May 2012 #39

May I point out, I'm not interested in answering that "question," or any other rhetorical nonsense apocalypsehow May 2012 #41

Yup sarisataka May 2012 #48

Yup - you got it. And it clears up plenty you already know, for the obvious reasons. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #51

Clarification of this post Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #91

Nice back-pedal. "I responded to your question in the manner that I did..." - LOL. apocalypsehow May 2012 #96

And yet you still have not specified this "racism" you claimed. PavePusher May 2012 #97

Oh yes I have - and with your help. You are, after all, the one who proudly posted an OP that links apocalypsehow May 2012 #98

I thought we had moved on a bit. PavePusher May 2012 #99

Hey, you're the one that said you were "done" replying to me, and then went right ahead and did so apocalypsehow May 2012 #101

No back-pedal involved. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #109

Yes, a complete and total back-pedal, fully involved. You're pitiful attempts to deny it only serve apocalypsehow May 2012 #128

Pitiful? That would be your lazy duo-syllabic response (#54) Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #134

I'll check that later, have to go to an appointment right now. PavePusher May 2012 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #133

Well, I didn't see this racism you seem to think is there... PavePusher May 2012 #33

Uh-huh. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #54

Love that guy. Union Scribe May 2012 #95