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Those damn guns always killing people. ileus May 2012 #1
"But, but, but."..... TheCowsCameHome May 2012 #2
Ok, wait. NewMoonTherian May 2012 #72
Can you put that number in context? hack89 May 2012 #3
I think a peron commiting suicide would think twice if he didn't have a gun handy. Slicing ones demosincebirth May 2012 #5
So do countries with low gun ownership rates have lower sucide rates? hack89 May 2012 #6
Silly hack89, don't you realize non-gun suicide victims aren't as dead as gun suicide victims? friendly_iconoclast May 2012 #28
Well one thing is for sure, it doesn't make near as much noise noluv4hyps May 2012 #83
You're absolutely right. DanTex May 2012 #9
Low gun states tend to have... krispos42 May 2012 #22
That may be true. DanTex May 2012 #32
It is true. krispos42 May 2012 #56
So education, poverty and access to mental health care are the same in each state? hack89 May 2012 #29
In Japan, the non-gun suicide rate is higher than *all* our murder and suicide rates combined friendly_iconoclast May 2012 #30
Those people are equally dead. You had a point? DanTex May 2012 #33
Most suicides I see... jeepnstein May 2012 #12
At least when you take an over-dose of pain killers to commit suicide you have time to demosincebirth May 2012 #49
It is not a matter of re thinking gejohnston May 2012 #51
Who knows how many have changed their mind before hanging themselves or jumping in front of demosincebirth May 2012 #69
those would be the same ones gejohnston May 2012 #70
that argument is nonsense. demosincebirth May 2012 #76
How so? gejohnston May 2012 #77
You may be confusing the two groups of suiciders. ManiacJoe May 2012 #78
I give up. nt demosincebirth May 2012 #79
Right, 'cause that's the only other method available.... PavePusher May 2012 #24
There are many easy, painless, ways to kill one's self. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #34
pills...easy peasy. gas...easy peasy. pills and alcohol easy peasy. Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #93
There are several types that shouldn't be included. ileus May 2012 #7
Context: DanTex May 2012 #10
Why do you vastly understate the death toll from alcohol? Why ignore the death toll from drugs? hack89 May 2012 #13
I was giving context. DanTex May 2012 #14
We are not talking actions. We are talking agents. hack89 May 2012 #16
We have obviously not been very successful at fighting gun violence. DanTex May 2012 #17
That is because of our stupid war on drugs. hack89 May 2012 #18
Drugs are illegal in most other countries as well. The big difference is gun availability. DanTex May 2012 #19
How is an alcoholic drinking himself to death different from a suicide? hack89 May 2012 #21
Here's my problem with your number krispos42 May 2012 #25
make the assertion, provide the substantiation iverglas May 2012 #26
In recent years... krispos42 May 2012 #55
I could agree that the substitution rate is probably greater than 0%. DanTex May 2012 #57
when you start with a false premise iverglas May 2012 #59
Seems to be bright lines between accidents (a few hundred) and murder and suicide, which split the AtheistCrusader May 2012 #31
You carefully selected your context... NewMoonTherian May 2012 #73
How about them crazy bathtubs, the real killers? Starboard Tack May 2012 #36
I saw that article as very reflective of the gun control attitude in America hack89 May 2012 #40
You saw Japanese bathtub deaths as "very reflective of the gun control attitude in America" Starboard Tack May 2012 #43
No - society's attitudes as to what is dangerous and what is accepted. hack89 May 2012 #44
Deep bathtubs might be more dangerous. I think I get it. Starboard Tack May 2012 #46
No you don't get it. hack89 May 2012 #47
19308+11015+600=/=31513 Taitertots May 2012 #4
Bathtubs Starboard Tack May 2012 #37
Well Old Codger May 2012 #8
That's nothing compared to those bathtub killers Starboard Tack May 2012 #38
HMMMMM Meiko May 2012 #11
How many smoke themselves to death in the bathtub? Starboard Tack May 2012 #39
just one little note (edited) iverglas May 2012 #15
This poster is no longer with us. Clames May 2012 #103
Oh no, Paco! X_Digger May 2012 #104
Your point? HALO141 May 2012 #20
Guns are evil, I think. nt hack89 May 2012 #23
That's the price we pay for the freedom to own firearms. Atypical Liberal May 2012 #27
Not so. It's the price we all pay when fools use firearms around other people. Starboard Tack May 2012 #41
So tell us how to distinguish the responsible from the irresponsible hack89 May 2012 #45
My pleasure. Here are a few pointers. Starboard Tack May 2012 #48
No - I mean how do you write laws that distinguish between the two hack89 May 2012 #50
I'm not big on writing laws and legislation is not always the answer. Starboard Tack May 2012 #52
It won't be an election issue if Democrats leave well enough alone. hack89 May 2012 #54
I appreciate your maturity. NewMoonTherian May 2012 #74
One issue sarisataka May 2012 #61
I'm not going either, but if I had no choice. Starboard Tack May 2012 #62
You are suggesting that a responsible person can predict when he might need his firearm ... spin May 2012 #84
Needs lesson in geography. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #86
I have 3 suggestions for you Starboard Tack May 2012 #87
I personally hate shopping at Walmart ... spin May 2012 #88
Sounds like you'll be fine Starboard Tack May 2012 #89
have to ask gejohnston May 2012 #90
I really couldn't say Starboard Tack May 2012 #91
A Chevy Volt would gejohnston May 2012 #95
I like the Chevy volt Starboard Tack May 2012 #96
why not long distance? gejohnston May 2012 #97
The Volt only runs on it's electric motor. Starboard Tack May 2012 #98
OK you convinced me gejohnston May 2012 #99
The reason I avoid Walmart is that I dislike big box stores ... spin May 2012 #92
That's right. And as long as we have easy access to firearms... Atypical Liberal May 2012 #60
When was the last time a gun killed someone? ileus May 2012 #35
Just before the bathtub, or was it the knife, or the foot, or the car. Starboard Tack May 2012 #42
who other than gun control advocates view gejohnston May 2012 #53
Another reminder... Clames May 2012 #58
Are drive by shootings included w/car statistics or firearm statistics? nt Remmah2 May 2012 #81
So what would you propose to "fix" this "problem"? crayfish May 2012 #63
Just a question: discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #65
Ohhhh...I didn't even notice that, thank you for pointing it out. I need to learn how to read crayfish May 2012 #66
think nothing of it discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #68
The OP's usual M.O.... Clames May 2012 #71
Thanks, I would never have guessed. ;) discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #75
Are you advocating... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #64
Where's the spammer from Italy when we need him? ileus May 2012 #67
Hey, yeah, I haven't seen him around in awhile. LAGC May 2012 #80
Then maybe the guns should go to jail and the people should be exonerated noluv4hyps May 2012 #82
Did those guns need help to kill those 31k, or did they do it on their own? ileus May 2012 #85
Fiction: The Personification of Inanimate Objects by jpak Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #94
33,800 people killed in auto wrecks (2009) BiggJawn May 2012 #100
OMG LETS BAN CARS gendoikari87 May 2012 #102
19000? gendoikari87 May 2012 #101
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