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Massad Ayoob discusses SYG and Castle Doctrine. [View all]

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Massad Ayoob discusses SYG and Castle Doctrine.

http://www.gundigest.com/gun-rights/video-massad-ayoob-on-stand-your-ground-laws

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Massad Ayoob discusses SYG and Castle Doctrine. [View all] PavePusher Apr 2012 OP

Bad Link Taitertots Apr 2012 #1

Excellent speech. very informative. N/T GreenStormCloud May 2012 #6

Fixed it, Thanks!! n/t PavePusher May 2012 #11

Links suxs. So does site. Hoyt Apr 2012 #2

I'm guessing gejohnston May 2012 #3

I'm pretty sure that he never opened the link. Just the name on it oneshooter May 2012 #20

Exactly correct. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #23

Link fixed. PavePusher May 2012 #13

Massad's definitely among the most level-headed authors Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #4

I gave a copy of "In the Gravest Extreme" to a friend who doesn't care for guns. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #16

As much as I distrust those who want to mandate training requirements here, Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #17

"Those morons need to wise up." Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #93

Excellent discussion of self defense and stand your ground law ... spin May 2012 #5

Great find, excellent speech. Thanks for sharing. ileus May 2012 #7

Taking note.... Xela May 2012 #8

Link fixed, Thanks! n/t PavePusher May 2012 #12

Great video! k&r ManiacJoe May 2012 #9

An excellent 16 minutes that addresses many points that have been brought up here. Atypical Liberal May 2012 #10

Here's the whole thing. Callisto32 May 2012 #14

Thanks, I hadn't had time to backtrack to that. PavePusher May 2012 #15

You win Best Thread of the Week. Congratulations ileus May 2012 #18

He is a very intelligent man! I love his attitude. I real all his stuff. n-t Logical May 2012 #19

What a lovely little website you've chosen to link to on Democratic Underground! apocalypsehow May 2012 #21

Do you agree with everything in any progressive media? gejohnston May 2012 #22

Go play logical fallacies (in this instance, *tu quoque*) with someone who's interested - I'm not. apocalypsehow May 2012 #25

Fewer. Callisto32 May 2012 #29

you played the first round gejohnston May 2012 #30

Once again, since you don't seem to grasp what you have read: address the content of my post, apocalypsehow May 2012 #36

I did gejohnston May 2012 #43

There were multiple racist rants on that site, notably in the editorial section. As you well know, apocalypsehow May 2012 #44

Please cite this racism you are seeing. PavePusher May 2012 #46

Please hie thee over to the website in question and look around. If you can't "see it," then we're apocalypsehow May 2012 #49

Your claim. Your responsibility to support your claim. PavePusher May 2012 #61

No, not my claim; not my "responsibility" to do anything. The website was linked in the OP, and the apocalypsehow May 2012 #65

Show the evidence of your claim or leave my thread. n/t PavePusher May 2012 #70

LOL. apocalypsehow May 2012 #74

And we are done. PavePusher May 2012 #79

"And we are done" - LOL! Good stuff - your concession is duly noted. As I had the facts on my side, apocalypsehow May 2012 #81

enjoy your delusion gejohnston May 2012 #83

Uh-huh. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #85

unfortunately, on DU3 bad manners are not an enforceable offense. Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #100

Ahhhh. Don't well up and cry on us. That jury made the unaminous right call, and you well know it. apocalypsehow May 2012 #102

I do not alert. and looks like you are the one shedding tears Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #104

Somebody did - as to "shedding tears," you're the one whining about how unfair it all is that a post apocalypsehow May 2012 #105

merely pointing out the hyprocrsiy in this group is all Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #106

No, you were not: you were moaning about a jury decision that didn't go your way. Here's what YOU apocalypsehow May 2012 #107

a statement of fact. the truth. Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #108

LOL - and now you are caught in a bare-faced contradiction: "I do not alert on DU3" (above) apocalypsehow May 2012 #110

you said it was alerted. I DO NOT ALERT. I DO NOT PLAY THESE STUPID REINDEER GAMES Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #111

Uh-huh. Riiiiiiggghhhttt..... apocalypsehow May 2012 #112

did someone alert on a post? gejohnston May 2012 #113

unless I misunderstand -- yes. the way I read post #102 by apocalypsehow it would seem that Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #124

I will rebut any stupid accusations made and dude you made one Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #117

Uh-huh. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #127

I'll bet gun sales would decline 50% or more if bigots quit buying them for "self-defense." Hoyt May 2012 #88

without bigots gejohnston May 2012 #89

You are correct sarisataka May 2012 #90

And yet you still own guns yourself... Clames May 2012 #94

Who do you think that liberal criminologist James Wright was referring to Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #114

I agree with Wright's use of the term "derviant cultures" in referring to those obsessed with guns. Hoyt May 2012 #115

ever meet a conservative sociologist? gejohnston May 2012 #116

We had more than a few outright racist sociologists where I grew up. Hoyt May 2012 #118

they way you described your part of Georgia gejohnston May 2012 #119

Some are probably followers of NRA and "The Turner Diaries." Hoyt May 2012 #120

When you were a kid, the NRA was nothing like the NRA of today gejohnston May 2012 #122

Yeah, it's a pain to do on a cell phone. Hoyt May 2012 #123

smart phones are over rated gejohnston May 2012 #125

So are hoyts. n/t PavePusher May 2012 #129

Point #1 - Wright put quotes around the words "deviant cultures" for a reason. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #121

"Wright self identifies" as liberal. I saw member of KKK say he was a "civil rights activist" too. Hoyt May 2012 #126

What?! You've claimed to "know", repeatedly. PavePusher May 2012 #130

I think you have described gun culture's rationalization for more guns in public. Hoyt May 2012 #131

So you really think Jimmy Carter would have appointed a group of pro-gun Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #132

What a lovely little genetic fallacy you've employed! Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #24

You need to read your own link, because it's obvious you don't grasp in what context a genetic apocalypsehow May 2012 #26

If it helps you, just ignore the web host. Either way, watch the video. ManiacJoe May 2012 #27

Not interested in watching videos from racists peddling bigotry, though I well understand how such apocalypsehow May 2012 #37

name one racist gejohnston May 2012 #45

Now you're changing the subject, because you don't want to be seen as defending the numerous racist apocalypsehow May 2012 #47

actually you did gejohnston May 2012 #53

Actually, I didn't, as any literate observer reading this subthread will see upon perusal. And the apocalypsehow May 2012 #55

The video isn't from gundigest.com Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #56

I don't care where the "video" was from, or what it's content was or is. You really do need to keep apocalypsehow May 2012 #58

"Tellarites do not argue for reasons. They simply argue." Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #60

Live long and prosper sarisataka May 2012 #62

actually I don't read it gejohnston May 2012 #57

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me, your inability to see racism where it obviously is. But what I apocalypsehow May 2012 #59

you have to understand the context gejohnston May 2012 #64

No, that's not how it works in the adult world: logical fallacies are for the playground, not grown apocalypsehow May 2012 #67

really? gejohnston May 2012 #77

Least entertaining argument ever Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #87

Link, please. n/t PavePusher May 2012 #66

The link has been provided in the OP - or did you miss perusing the OP? apocalypsehow May 2012 #69

I wrote the O.P. Show your evidence. n/t PavePusher May 2012 #71

"I wrote the O.P." - I know you did. Re-read my reply. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #76

See the clarification to my post. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #92

Isn't this just good stuff? Asked if racist websites should be linked here, and the content of their apocalypsehow May 2012 #63

You have not given evidence of racism. PavePusher May 2012 #68

Oh yes I have - the link is available. My "accusations" have been sustained with solid evidence. apocalypsehow May 2012 #72

Still waiting on that YES or NO, O.P. As the old song goes, "any day now..." apocalypsehow May 2012 #78

Still waiting on that YES or NO, BTW. Do you need me to repeat the question? apocalypsehow May 2012 #103

all simple answers are wrong gejohnston May 2012 #73

Now you're down to tautology. Somehow pitiful and laughable all at once. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #75

you still showed no gejohnston May 2012 #80

Oh yes I did. Repeatedly, for anyone who has access to those links. And can read. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #82

if you say so gejohnston May 2012 #84

Yeah, I've proved so. So does the "rest of the world" - that can read. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #86

Yes. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #31

Or you can be like Hoyt and just ignore it all, then make snide remarks about it. oneshooter May 2012 #32

So, you think linking to websites like Stormfront and other racist outlets is A-Okay on DU. Thanks apocalypsehow May 2012 #34

Show one example of someone linking to Stromfront gejohnston May 2012 #35

I just have. You really need to keep up. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #38

actually, gejohnston May 2012 #40

Actually, I have. Your willful refusal to read the plain text on the screen in front of you is an apocalypsehow May 2012 #42

no you have not gejohnston May 2012 #50

Yes, I have. And you well know it. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #52

May I point out sarisataka May 2012 #39

May I point out, I'm not interested in answering that "question," or any other rhetorical nonsense apocalypsehow May 2012 #41

Yup sarisataka May 2012 #48

Yup - you got it. And it clears up plenty you already know, for the obvious reasons. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #51

Clarification of this post Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #91

Nice back-pedal. "I responded to your question in the manner that I did..." - LOL. apocalypsehow May 2012 #96

And yet you still have not specified this "racism" you claimed. PavePusher May 2012 #97

Oh yes I have - and with your help. You are, after all, the one who proudly posted an OP that links apocalypsehow May 2012 #98

I thought we had moved on a bit. PavePusher May 2012 #99

Hey, you're the one that said you were "done" replying to me, and then went right ahead and did so apocalypsehow May 2012 #101

No back-pedal involved. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #109

Yes, a complete and total back-pedal, fully involved. You're pitiful attempts to deny it only serve apocalypsehow May 2012 #128

Pitiful? That would be your lazy duo-syllabic response (#54) Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #134

I'll check that later, have to go to an appointment right now. PavePusher May 2012 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #133

Well, I didn't see this racism you seem to think is there... PavePusher May 2012 #33

Uh-huh. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #54

Love that guy. Union Scribe May 2012 #95