Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Guns, Carried Openly or Concealed, Threaten Our Safety [View all]iverglas
(38,549 posts)of "shall issue" bus driver licences, let alone "shall issue" bus driver jobs ... or of bus drivers driving their buses around malls without anybody knowing they were there ...
On the other hand, I've never heard of drug/alcohol testing for people licensed to wander around in public with firearms in the US.
Do you take buses much? I do. Intercity buses are common modes of transport here, and we're a pretty mobile bunch. At the local terminal, I see the boss types in their glass booth above the waiting area. I see the drivers interacting with one another and supervisors. I see all the forms they fill in and checks they do. (And I go through metal detectors, and hand-scan and a hand-luggage search). I hear them get radio/cellphone calls from supervisors on the highway.
It's called oversight. Maybe you could look it up.
And if you even want to start on surgeons, or pilots. Is oversight adequate in every instance? It's not perfect. Name me a human system that is.
Jezus Christ, man, do you want to make yourself look this thick?
There is NO oversight of people wandering around with firearms in the US. There is NO screening process to determine their suitability, apart from determining that they are not ruled on one or two very very very basic points. There is NO regular or intermittent or even single contact between any oversight authority and the individual until it comes time to renew a licence.
Yes, this is similar to driving -- except that drivers actually do at least have to pass a test. And there are drunk-driving spot checks all the time and all over, where I'm at. And speeding radar. And red light videocameras. And there are cops on the road who can actually see the vehicles and drivers, and monitor their behaviour, and take action against non-compliant behaviour. And the drivers know all that. And none of that is analogous to someone walking around with a pistol in their fanny pack.
So I don't know how many different ways I can say this.
Permitting someone to wander around in public with a firearm creates a situation where there is NO POSSIBILITY of oversight. Not of mental state, not of law compliance, not of criminality, not of ANYTHING. Not before or after the permission is given.
And that is a very good reason why IT SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED. People should not be permitted to wander around in pubic with firearms. What can you possibly not be grasping here??????