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In reply to the discussion: Changes to gun laws [View all]Straw Man
(6,622 posts)74. Yes.
I support individual rights all the way to the point when they threaten the public good. Same as yelling fire in a crowded theater.
And I support the public good all the way to the point where it threatens individual rights. Now we have to determine where that point is. I would suggest that an individual who has never been convicted of a felony or adjudicated mentally incompetent should not be deprived of the right to carry a firearm. That is a case of the public good unjustly and fruitlessly impinging on an individual right.
I never like the "fire in a crowded theater" analogy, because it places the onus on the individual patron, who may be acting from the best of motives in the case of an actual fire, rather than on the theater owner for failing to provide adequate emergency exits.
I don't call for individual sacrifice. Do you consider leaving your gun at home when you go out to dinner a sacrifice?
Oh, but you do. You're asking me to give up a right -- the right to carry a firearm in public. That comes down to the fundamental right of an individual to provide for his or her own self-defense, regardless of what you happen to think of the necessity of that provision. I don't consider leaving my gun at home a sacrifice, but if you're asking me to give up the right to decide if and when I will carry it, yes, that's a sacrifice. It's not one to you, since you clearly have no interest in carrying a gun. You have nothing to lose. You're asking me to sacrifice an individual right for your conception of the common good. Sorry, no sale.
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"...there is no way to trace handguns except ones that are newly purchased or from a gun dealer."
PavePusher
Apr 2012
#8
A person can build their own car, truck, airplane, motorcycle, tractor or lawnmower.
Remmah2
Apr 2012
#29
Applys to MA and a couple other states - get rid of the ridiculous approved firearms roster.
geckosfeet
Apr 2012
#4
And that's the problem. No-one's Constitutional Rights should be held at the whim of anyone.....
PavePusher
Apr 2012
#65
First we should lose the idea that you have an unlimited right to carry a loaded weapon where ever
upaloopa
Apr 2012
#12
I have decided not to engage in meaningless banter back and forth with the gun lobby here.
upaloopa
Apr 2012
#16
So you identify with George Zimmerman and those two Deliverance types who pulled assault weapons
upaloopa
Apr 2012
#21
Probably some lucky guys get picked up in bars by beautiful women and taken home.
upaloopa
Apr 2012
#33
Repeal of the '86 ban on new manufacture of full auto weapons for civilians.
Johnny Rico
Apr 2012
#37