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Starboard Tack

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182. Sure. No problem.
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 06:06 PM
Apr 2012

I don't know what they might be alerting on, but if they think I'm carrying a gun, or pose any danger to the public, by all means they should.

While I wouldnt start counting chickens just yet rrneck Apr 2012 #1
Like it should. Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #2
It's not necessarily a bad law rrneck Apr 2012 #6
It's a bad law... ellisonz Apr 2012 #28
Of course it's atrocious. rrneck Apr 2012 #40
Explain to me why preceeding self-defense law was insufficient. nt/ ellisonz Apr 2012 #43
So you got nothin'. All righty. nt rrneck Apr 2012 #52
Neither do you... ellisonz Apr 2012 #53
The difference rrneck Apr 2012 #54
"I'm not feeding off the death of that boy for my own amusement." ellisonz Apr 2012 #61
Whst makes you think I've ever taken you seriously? rrneck Apr 2012 #73
These gun culture folks are often disgusting. They'd sacrifice a bunch of innocents Hoyt Apr 2012 #128
Yes, and several others would sarcifice a bunch of people to ban them. beevul Apr 2012 #130
You've never seen beyond your gun barrel. What's new? Hoyt Apr 2012 #131
I haven't actually even looked at a gun... beevul Apr 2012 #167
Show me how the statute even APPLIES to the Martin incident... Callisto32 Apr 2012 #222
Unfortunately. Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #39
Oh boy! I think you just burst a lot of balloons. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #70
You do know that gun sales to women is one of the fastest growing segments, right? DonP Apr 2012 #75
I do. Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #80
Also, Harley Davidson is having functions in their stores targeted (no pun... ) to women. Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #86
snork iverglas Apr 2012 #157
You are right, a miserable increase. Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #191
Apparently you haven't been paying attention...Women are among the fastest growing demographics S_B_Jackson Apr 2012 #76
Not a good way to find out you need to carry a gun. Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #90
No, it wasn't....attack took place IN her home. S_B_Jackson Apr 2012 #118
What does your wife's experience have to do with carrying in public? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #162
actually, no indication at all that one needs to carry a gun iverglas Apr 2012 #158
+1. Well said, as usual. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #165
+1, nt Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #185
Dear Lost-in-FL, please read this shadowrider Apr 2012 #77
I do know people with firearms. Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #84
"Lady"? iverglas Apr 2012 #161
The poster to whom I was answering didn't take offense, so you have no reason shadowrider Apr 2012 #164
you really are a great big charmer, you are! iverglas Apr 2012 #168
Buh Bye shadowrider Apr 2012 #171
I wish iverglas Apr 2012 #173
Sliced and diced! Damn, that was better than hockey. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #178
I fail to see the logic gejohnston Apr 2012 #78
Qualified expert with M16 and was trained as a Medic to use a 9mm Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #89
I grew up with guns gejohnston Apr 2012 #96
"I basically find duty to retreat as fundamentally unjust in many ways." Simo 1939_1940 Apr 2012 #163
what sick, upside-down world? iverglas Apr 2012 #169
You're right. That would be, "sick" and "upside-down." HALO141 Apr 2012 #243
...unfortunately sarisataka Apr 2012 #81
My Loving Wife has had a CHL for 10 years now. oneshooter Apr 2012 #82
I don't have a problem with responsible/common sense gun ownership. Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #88
I'm with you all the way. Good posts. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #92
agree except that gejohnston Apr 2012 #98
Maybe that applies to everyone. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #100
so if Martin killed gejohnston Apr 2012 #114
I am against it in principle outside the home Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #146
And this is where that argument breaks down. Clames Apr 2012 #148
Self-defense can be a justification for homicide. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #155
another one who needs to go to law school iverglas Apr 2012 #196
Another one who needs to go to charm school. Clames Apr 2012 #199
Q.E.D. iverglas Apr 2012 #201
As long as you are admonishing people to cognoscere Apr 2012 #210
if I see any need for instructions from whoever you are iverglas Apr 2012 #212
Oh, Canada! Clames Apr 2012 #219
At least I understand it enough to know that it didn't even apply to Zimmy guy. Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #102
In truth, the fervor over SYG pipoman Apr 2012 #141
Thank you. Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #103
She also shoots HighPower, using a AR-15 I built for her. oneshooter Apr 2012 #94
Good point! bongbong Apr 2012 #110
My wife has twice used her concealed pistol to prevent attack. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #135
Seriously? Why would I like that? Dramatizing much? Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #154
Because you are against guns. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #186
Nevermind that I have nothing against responsible gun ownership as I stated a few... Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #188
So are you against her having a CHL and carrying a gun? GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #193
No. Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #205
The nation is safe enough... krispos42 Apr 2012 #140
I know several women who carry. HALO141 Apr 2012 #244
Definitely no chickens yet and "adjustments" would be good. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #7
I think a tweak might be a good thing. Logical Apr 2012 #8
It would probably involve something like rrneck Apr 2012 #22
Great point! n-t Logical Apr 2012 #34
Excellent point! Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #93
No. nt rrneck Apr 2012 #97
With only 4% or so addicted to carrying guns in public, there is no reason sanity cannot Hoyt Apr 2012 #3
Interesting... mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #5
If you're not addicted, that's great news. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #10
You realize that 75% of the public supports concealed carry, yes? TheWraith Apr 2012 #9
72% Really? Where did you pull that number from? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #13
Maybe if you actually read the poll? TheWraith Apr 2012 #26
That poll is very flawed bongbong Apr 2012 #33
I'll take AP/Ipsos' expertise over yours, thanks. TheWraith Apr 2012 #46
Go ahead bongbong Apr 2012 #49
Let me guess, AH1Apache Apr 2012 #57
Nope bongbong Apr 2012 #95
But I bet you would agree with one that came up with an opposite view AH1Apache Apr 2012 #104
Yes! bongbong Apr 2012 #107
Of course you would because it would fit your agenda AH1Apache Apr 2012 #108
Ooops bongbong Apr 2012 #109
Coming form you, that's rich AH1Apache Apr 2012 #112
Yes bongbong Apr 2012 #115
Big difference between supporting CC and supporting laws "allowing" CC permits. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #38
You're attempting to wriggle out of the fact that most Democrats support concealed carry. TheWraith Apr 2012 #47
Bullshit. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #62
One can't be progressive with a progressive stance on 2A freedom. ileus Apr 2012 #15
The 72% is fiction. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #17
Gibberish. n/t ellisonz Apr 2012 #29
I'm a Dem and I don't support concealed carry..nor does mr. shraby. shraby Apr 2012 #16
Well, that's your right. TheWraith Apr 2012 #27
I'm a dem and I support CC and OC and so does miss ileus ileus Apr 2012 #30
+100 Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #45
People with CC permits are extremely safe. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #230
I guess you didn't read the WHOLE article. Hoyt Apr 2012 #35
"we have to keep up the pressure" rl6214 Apr 2012 #20
NOW WE'RE ADDICTED HOYT? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #56
And what have you done to bring this to fruition? oneshooter Apr 2012 #85
Dude, he doesn't have the time to do that shadowrider Apr 2012 #138
I agree mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #4
Well hopefully the Zman case will end up in acquittal ileus Apr 2012 #11
You would hope Zimmerman walks. Self-defense in your mind is shooting people fleeing Hoyt Apr 2012 #36
really...having trouble quoting people again? ileus Apr 2012 #55
He made the same claim about me and when called on it AH1Apache Apr 2012 #60
He claimed a similar lie several weeks ago...SHOP I suppose. ileus Apr 2012 #64
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #65
And obviously AH1Apache Apr 2012 #59
Do you carry a gun prepared to shoot someone in a split second? Hoyt Apr 2012 #127
where's the link? ileus Apr 2012 #142
I'm not even going to answer your dumbass question again. AH1Apache Apr 2012 #145
Wonder how long a pro-RKBA Dem would last at DU who *repeatedly* Simo 1939_1940 Apr 2012 #228
Evening bump...what is that link again? ileus Apr 2012 #187
wow, for somebody who gets so verbose and uppity iverglas Apr 2012 #200
A better suggestion... Clames Apr 2012 #206
isn't it lovely? iverglas Apr 2012 #213
I've learned... Clames Apr 2012 #220
still no link ileus Apr 2012 #101
Link? Thanks... ileus Apr 2012 #216
hello check check...is this thing on? ileus Apr 2012 #221
Aflac or ALEC? Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #48
oh my iverglas Apr 2012 #197
So far this year over 20 NRA supported laws have been passed and signed. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #12
For safety and Americas sake lets hope you're right. ileus Apr 2012 #14
For who's safety? And who's America? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #19
As long as my gun ownership does not threaten your safety hack89 Apr 2012 #24
rude toter... ileus Apr 2012 #31
It threatens everyone's safety, directly or indirectly. Hoyt Apr 2012 #37
So does me owning a car or buying alcohol on a frequent basis hack89 Apr 2012 #42
More logical fallacies bongbong Apr 2012 #111
It is not for alcohol hack89 Apr 2012 #123
Really? bongbong Apr 2012 #125
I have plenty of evidence that murders and other gun violence is at historic lows hack89 Apr 2012 #136
C'mon man, get with the program shadowrider Apr 2012 #139
You have stats. They are not evidence of anything. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #180
So you believe that more guns will produce more violence? hack89 Apr 2012 #181
Ask Trayvon Martin that question. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #183
That is an evasion - not an answer hack89 Apr 2012 #184
not mine...directly or indirectly ileus Apr 2012 #50
How Hoyt. AH1Apache Apr 2012 #63
you're a rude baser gunner toter you don't deserve a response. ileus Apr 2012 #66
Why would your gun ownership threaten my safety? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #58
I would never carry on your private property without permission hack89 Apr 2012 #68
I'll be exercising my 1A rights to alert all in the vicinity. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #72
warning rude toter!!!! ileus Apr 2012 #74
No, I would alert LE that there was an armed individual and let them sort it out. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #99
OMFG AH1Apache Apr 2012 #105
Hopefully I wouldn't know and you would not be embarassed Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #149
So to be clear sarisataka Apr 2012 #152
Exactly! Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #156
A consistent standard sarisataka Apr 2012 #166
I'm striving for a consistent standard. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #175
If you see someone open carrying in Tampa gejohnston Apr 2012 #172
I haven't lived in Tampa since 1980 Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #177
no it was 1893 gejohnston Apr 2012 #179
I got a chuckle out of that. mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #129
And that is fine. I would expect that. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #150
No so mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #189
That's wonderful. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #192
I suppose he'd run up grab and throw them to the ground ileus Apr 2012 #143
Just as someone can do the same to you. I am sure you would be understanding about it. oneshooter Apr 2012 #144
Absolutely they could, but they would be wrong. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #151
Sure. No problem. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #182
How often have you actually done this? You say below that you've spotted CCWers in public; petronius Apr 2012 #176
Why would I be open to legal jeopardy? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #195
I don't think it is arrogance gejohnston Apr 2012 #198
Good point. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #203
not a modern handgun gejohnston Apr 2012 #204
I was meaning in terms of empowerment, not value. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #208
I always though empowerment was a good thing gejohnston Apr 2012 #209
I'm using it in the literal sense, not it's recent psycho-socio-political incarnation Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #214
Please reread your posts 58, 72, and 99 petronius Apr 2012 #202
Sorry if I confused you. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #207
You didn't confuse me, you said two different and mutually exclusive things petronius Apr 2012 #211
I think I was pretty clear Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #215
Why thank you ST. I thought you had me pegged as a aggressive gun packer. oneshooter Apr 2012 #217
I would love to take you up on that. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #218
You mean losers shouldn't carry guns? nt Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #190
An editorial does not = any increase in gun control rl6214 Apr 2012 #18
"Until you people get organized" Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #21
More feigned ignorance rl6214 Apr 2012 #23
More dodging the question Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #41
"you people" = gun grabbers. nt hack89 Apr 2012 #25
Really? I don't see any gun grabbers here. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #44
Yes - I do consider you a gun grabber hack89 Apr 2012 #51
Well you are wrong. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #67
Until you can prove a harm to society hack89 Apr 2012 #69
Earth to Hack! 11,000 gun deaths is a harm to society. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #71
Which represents a 50 percent decrease since 1990 hack89 Apr 2012 #79
I don't know where you got the 50% decrease since 1990 from Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #83
your graph is outdated gejohnston Apr 2012 #87
I don't think so Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #91
Your chart misses the 6 more years of steady decline since 2004 hack89 Apr 2012 #106
Yawn bongbong Apr 2012 #113
The only thing that he/she is saying is that gun ownership is up while violent crime is down AH1Apache Apr 2012 #116
Nope bongbong Apr 2012 #117
but you are guessing gejohnston Apr 2012 #119
Sure bongbong Apr 2012 #120
he was making a statement of fact gejohnston Apr 2012 #122
Might and may and blah blah blah. Straw Man Apr 2012 #132
There is no correlation between gun ownership and murder rates hack89 Apr 2012 #121
Nope, as always bongbong Apr 2012 #126
Double nope. Straw Man Apr 2012 #133
Just your opinion - unsupported by logic or evidence. hack89 Apr 2012 #137
that graph is interesting Doctor_J Apr 2012 #223
I think the mid-nineties spike was probably more gang related Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #224
Interesting. Straw Man Apr 2012 #225
LOL, uh huh. beevul Apr 2012 #134
Wanna show me where I advocate grabbing/confiscating guns? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #147
It doesn't matter. beevul Apr 2012 #170
Of course it matters Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #174
Indiscriminate. Straw Man Apr 2012 #226
I'm referring to virtually all. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #227
So why the qualifier "indiscriminate" ... Straw Man Apr 2012 #229
Because current laws don't discriminate enough Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #234
Really? Straw Man Apr 2012 #235
The "ludicrous" picture of scattering people is yours, not mine Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #236
So what do you picture? Straw Man Apr 2012 #237
What do I picture? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #238
Different pictures. Straw Man Apr 2012 #239
You would have a heart attack in the church I attend. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #231
How come I would have a heart attack? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #233
as an animist or some kind of undefined theiest, gejohnston Apr 2012 #240
Me too. LOL Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #241
The true gun grabbers are well organized ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #32
Was that last sentence necessary? rrneck Apr 2012 #124
Hahahaha!!!!!!! Major Hogwash Apr 2012 #153
Every dead kid killed by gun nuts increases the numbers of gun grabbers jpak Apr 2012 #160
Backlash jpak Apr 2012 #159
Backlash? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #194
Frontlash! GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #232
Sidelash! ileus Apr 2012 #242
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