Gun Control & RKBA

hlthe2b

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11. Pushing more and more gun sales, pushing the paranoia, pushing to remove any barriers to killing

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:14 AM

Apr 2012

those are hardly ways to diminish access to those who should not have them and USE by those who should not have them.

NRA used to be a responsible group that took gun safety seriously, gun manufacturing seriously, and worked with others to promote responsible ownership... And responsible gun owners worked to ensure NRA continued that as their primary mission. That is largely no longer the case. So, blame yourselves. I'm not going to take your gun. But the sheer increase in irresponsible gun owners and "shoot first, think later" murders masked as "self defense" will ensure more restrictions eventually happen. There is a critical threshold of carnage beyond which there is no return.

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2 young children shot with rifle, 1 girl dead, 3 y/o boy life flighted - brother taken into custody [View all] moobu2 Apr 2012 OP

Why do we need less guns? hlthe2b Apr 2012 #1

I will not allow you to take my guns away from me. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #2

It is the irresponsible gun owners safeinOhio Apr 2012 #3

Have you noticed the trend in laws? GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #22

So then you are self-identifying as an irresponsible gun owner? hlthe2b Apr 2012 #4

Yet no one has any idea how to identify an "irresponsible gun owner" hack89 Apr 2012 #7

Pushing more and more gun sales, pushing the paranoia, pushing to remove any barriers to killing hlthe2b Apr 2012 #11

Gun deaths and violence are at historic lows and steadily declining hack89 Apr 2012 #14

It is the gun-grabbers who created the modern NRA. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #27

in order to do that gejohnston Apr 2012 #31

I'd suggest adopting laws like safeinOhio Apr 2012 #12

Yup... +1 hlthe2b Apr 2012 #13

So you support anyone over 18 being able to buy an "assault weapon" without a permit? hack89 Apr 2012 #17

Hardly.. I said we shoulld LOOK at Swiss laws to consider what should be done here. Period hlthe2b Apr 2012 #23

Yet aren't we looking at Swiss law because of their low levels of gun violence? hack89 Apr 2012 #26

You are right about the Swiz, now look at the regulations on safeinOhio Apr 2012 #40

Which matters because? gejohnston Apr 2012 #41

Yes - which is a non-starter in America hack89 Apr 2012 #42

The carry permit requirement would not pass 2A muster hack89 Apr 2012 #15

The establishment of permanent government databases hack89 Apr 2012 #21

And while you are at it... WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #32

The gun culture's love of guns and willingness to support groups like the NRA who push Hoyt Apr 2012 #5

At some point, we'll have to do something about it. rl6214 Apr 2012 #36

P-A-R-A-N-O-I-A TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #6

Do you think the same about car ownership? hack89 Apr 2012 #9

We already do....(restrict car access away from the irresponsible, mentally incapacited and others) hlthe2b Apr 2012 #10

But we don't restrict their driving privileges until after they prove they are irresponsible. hack89 Apr 2012 #16

We certainly do. Driver's must pass a written/drivingtest, must show proof of insurance, must pass hlthe2b Apr 2012 #19

Do you think guns should be regulated like cars? nt hack89 Apr 2012 #24

Your logic is the one failing ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #18

Absolutely irrelevant hlthe2b Apr 2012 #20

I don't need a license to buy and own a car and keep it on private property. hack89 Apr 2012 #28

Completely relevant. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #29

Like hell we do. PavePusher Apr 2012 #33

I know a number of people that drive without a license, rl6214 Apr 2012 #37

The dead girl was 10 years old. nt moobu2 Apr 2012 #8

Perhaps we should face a reality sarisataka Apr 2012 #25

A suggestion: Please don't use tinyurl. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #30

There you go. moobu2 Apr 2012 #34

Thanks! Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #35

UPDATE: A 17-year-old boy will be charged as an adult, with manslaughter, in the shooting death moobu2 Apr 2012 #38

So this may have been a GD accidental shooting? ileus Apr 2012 #39

Update: The girl was 5 y/o not 10 and moobu2 Apr 2012 #43

have a mailing address gejohnston Apr 2012 #44

Here's a link to a page with several branches in that area with phone #'s and addresses moobu2 Apr 2012 #45