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Atypical Liberal

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3. 10 great ways we are protecting the second amendment.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 09:37 AM
Apr 2012
1. Concealed carry reciprocity

I have no problem with this, any more than I have a problem with drivers' license reciprocity.

It would be nice to have a uniform federal standard for CCW, and I imagine we will get it if we have universal reciprocity.

2. Private gun sales loophole

If you require a government background check for every firearm purchase, you have just created a de facto firearm registry, which is unacceptable.

I would not have a problem with an opt-out FOID system similar to what Illinois has, which would give everyone who applies for a drivers' license or state-issued ID an FOID automatically unless they opt out.

3. Terror watch list

Everyone should oppose this abomination. It is a secret list of people maintained by the government that, by their own admission, includes people known not to be terrorists and excludes known terrorists, and this list is above due process.

No Constitutional right should be restricted without due process.

4. Stand-your-ground laws

The only problem with SYG laws is the rare possibility that two people might reasonably fear for their lives from each other, and thus reasonably attack each other.

I would have no problem getting rid of SYG laws provided people who kill in self-defense and are found to have lawfully done so have their legal expenses reimbursed by the state.

5. Guns on campuses

There is no reason why a person who can carry a concealed weapon down main street while surrounded by hundreds of his fellow citizens cannot also do so on a college campus. Amy Bishop shot 6 people, killing 3, in the building on UAH where I have class 3 days a week. The rules did not stop her. They only stop law-abiding people.

6. Guns in schools

I have no problem with this, as above.


7. Guns in the workplace

I have no problem with this.

8. Guns in bars and restaurants

I have no problem with this.

9. Tracing guns used in shootings

I am all for anything that makes it harder for the government to maintain a registry of firearm owners.


10. Revoking licences from corrupt dealers

I'm not familiar with this. Given the anti-criminal nature of the NRA, I suspect this is being spun by the article. More likely this is to prevent governmental railroading of legitimate FFLs.
That's why I keep paying my dues. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #1
So you would support guns in mental institutions? HockeyMom Apr 2012 #2
Maybe. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #4
Violence in some form was an everyday occurrence HockeyMom Apr 2012 #9
I'd much rather send my little safeinOhio Apr 2012 #6
I'm afraid to donate here. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #14
Fear of losing ten bucks? safeinOhio Apr 2012 #17
It's the principle. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #23
I donate - have donated to DU for years derby378 Apr 2012 #31
Don't be. beevul Apr 2012 #36
10 great ways we are protecting the second amendment. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #3
After re-reading the Second Amendment, safeinOhio Apr 2012 #8
What a stupid post jpak Apr 2012 #10
Much better thought out and reasoned than most of yours ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #33
My Republican brother in law agrees with you point by point. nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #12
well a broken clock and all... Becka2515 Apr 2012 #13
Well a broken clock may be right twice a day but my Republican brother in law isnt. nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #26
2nd Amendment bongbong Apr 2012 #15
Exactly... sarisataka Apr 2012 #16
Who to believe, you or the President and SCOTUS? Tough call DonP Apr 2012 #20
I notice you've yet to define this 'laissez-faire' gun ownership. X_Digger Apr 2012 #21
What role were the militias to play? Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #24
Your arguments are IMO very weak. The SYG laws are shoot first. They are license to kill rhett o rick Apr 2012 #27
I don't have a problem with that, as long as the state pays the legal expenses. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #28
There are approximately 20 college campuses that allow concealed carry in the US oneshooter Apr 2012 #29
You dont really want an intellegent discussion do you? rhett o rick Apr 2012 #32
Yes I do. I am just having trouble in having one with you. oneshooter Apr 2012 #43
Your continued condescension and insults indicate otherwise. nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #44
"As far as guns on campus..." PavePusher Apr 2012 #30
Not all SYG laws are the same and none do what you claim they do ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #34
Do you guys travel in packs? The police in the Treyvon Martin case would rhett o rick Apr 2012 #37
that actually may have not been the case gejohnston Apr 2012 #38
You clearly have not kept up on the Zimmerman case and are clueless about the law ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #39
And you clearly cant have a discussion w/o throwing insults. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #40
Then address what was said and don't lead with insults ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #42
This is the only good thing about the NRA. ileus Apr 2012 #5
Wow pipoman Apr 2012 #7
typical UK journalism gejohnston Apr 2012 #11
BRAVO fightthegoodfightnow Apr 2012 #18
BOOK MARKING fightthegoodfightnow Apr 2012 #19
All from Mayors Against Guns, and not a single explanation or counter-balance krispos42 Apr 2012 #22
Typical "journalism" these days ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #35
Thanks, I needed an incentive to renew. n/t X_Digger Apr 2012 #25
Stupid, slanted article written in ignorance. I stopped reading at "3. Terror watch list" slackmaster Apr 2012 #41
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