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sylvi

(813 posts)
155. The difference is
Sat Apr 14, 2012, 01:43 AM
Apr 2012

I attacked every one of your arguments until you finally gave up debating and went to the easy but dishonest, "you're a Tea Partier" insinuation. That signaled to me that the debate was over, and since you elected to stop arguing the point and fall back on insults instead, I'm perfectly free to give my opinion of your behavior, which is an accurate one, apparently.

You're not very good at this, really. Normally, I'd advise someone out of pure sympathy not to embarrass themselves. But you seem to have no problem with it, so knock thyself out.

Gun nuts Gman Apr 2012 #1
Anti-gun zealots rl6214 Apr 2012 #26
Why so defensive? Why so paranoid? Gman Apr 2012 #46
So you were there that night and saw everything AH1Apache Apr 2012 #53
What's your point? n/t ellisonz Apr 2012 #59
The point I'm making to that poster AH1Apache Apr 2012 #60
Well... ellisonz Apr 2012 #63
I never said people aren't entitled to an opinion AH1Apache Apr 2012 #68
I agree... ellisonz Apr 2012 #72
You are right AH1Apache Apr 2012 #88
Could she get a conviction on... sarisataka Apr 2012 #169
Absolutely. Under Fla law, Murder 2 always carries COLGATE4 Apr 2012 #187
I believe you are correct. AH1Apache Apr 2012 #188
That would make sense... sarisataka Apr 2012 #196
"Zimmerman is the perfect example." sylvi Apr 2012 #83
1. That's GMan's statement. ellisonz Apr 2012 #89
Yes it's Gman's statement sylvi Apr 2012 #115
This ain't no court of law. ellisonz Apr 2012 #125
It's not a debating society either, apparently. Straw Man Apr 2012 #133
Ain't no feckin' Tea Party neither... ellisonz Apr 2012 #136
wrong tea party gejohnston Apr 2012 #142
Actually, I was referring to the dexterity of his tap-dancing. Straw Man Apr 2012 #145
It was low hanging fruit... ellisonz Apr 2012 #150
What's the difference? ellisonz Apr 2012 #149
Ah yes, the ad hominem sylvi Apr 2012 #146
I like how you charge ad hominem... ellisonz Apr 2012 #151
The difference is sylvi Apr 2012 #155
Dodgers 9 - Padres 8 ellisonz Apr 2012 #160
Keep on tappin' ... Straw Man Apr 2012 #166
. trumad Apr 2012 #222
Show and tell? Straw Man Apr 2012 #244
No one said it was sylvi Apr 2012 #144
It is a fact that Gman Apr 2012 #107
Wow AH1Apache Apr 2012 #109
None of those three items are established facts sylvi Apr 2012 #112
Sounded pretty clear to me from the 911 operator Gman Apr 2012 #114
Apparently your the only AH1Apache Apr 2012 #118
You bailed out because you can't counter the 911 tape Gman Apr 2012 #120
Riiiiiiiiiight AH1Apache Apr 2012 #126
Well, I appreciate sylvi Apr 2012 #140
I wouldn't expect in the least for you Gman Apr 2012 #152
LOL "canned responses" sylvi Apr 2012 #156
Did Z have a legal obligation to obey the 911 operator (or dispatcher) in question? Marengo Apr 2012 #193
You're wrong Becka2515 Apr 2012 #179
A point of correction shadowrider Apr 2012 #181
Wow! Meiko Apr 2012 #190
I think it will come down to the forensics Meiko Apr 2012 #189
LOL! Gman Apr 2012 #76
I suppose NBC was totally honest in their gejohnston Apr 2012 #84
I read that canned response 2 weeks ago Gman Apr 2012 #94
Well,first of all sylvi Apr 2012 #105
I wrote that canned response gejohnston Apr 2012 #106
Yeah well Hurricame Carter was innocent too Gman Apr 2012 #116
Are you saying Hurricane isn't? gejohnston Apr 2012 #119
I actually think he was innocent Gman Apr 2012 #122
Just couldn't resist the insult could you? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #97
How do you explain yamihere Apr 2012 #159
Source??? Gman Apr 2012 #161
Don't have one yamihere Apr 2012 #171
Not at all defensive or paranoid, just truthfull and showing that two can play that game. rl6214 Apr 2012 #202
Are you denying we have a problem with gun violence in this country? n/t ellisonz Apr 2012 #2
I'm pointing out that the violence problem in the US isn't the result of guns. TheWraith Apr 2012 #8
Really? ellisonz Apr 2012 #14
you jumped to the conclusion gejohnston Apr 2012 #35
"He said gun sales are up and violent crime is dropping." ellisonz Apr 2012 #56
= correlation, not causation. gejohnston Apr 2012 #71
Sociologists calculate statistical significance too. ellisonz Apr 2012 #79
what is your beef with Hartmann? gejohnston Apr 2012 #90
I'm not a talk radio fan. ellisonz Apr 2012 #103
I have heard the phrase before gejohnston Apr 2012 #113
What's this... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #54
The royal "we" - the United States ellisonz Apr 2012 #57
Ha! discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #108
Sorry, Wraith, NO WAY I could have a positive view of the NRA, elleng Apr 2012 #3
We don't have military weapons on our streets. TheWraith Apr 2012 #7
Excuse me. 'Assault weapons.' elleng Apr 2012 #12
God help you now... ellisonz Apr 2012 #15
Well, no one's been able to remove my ability to have an opinion, yet, elleng Apr 2012 #17
Uninformed and as rationalizing at it may be... ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #124
Yes, facts matter. elleng Apr 2012 #129
VPC mantras and rationalizing are not valid arguments ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #131
It is MUCH too often TOO convenient elleng Apr 2012 #135
Still doesn't seem to make a difference eqfan592 Apr 2012 #227
Of course education and job creation would go a long way; elleng Apr 2012 #233
I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree AH1Apache Apr 2012 #132
Yes, I didn't, of course, say 'ALL guns kill people.' elleng Apr 2012 #134
You're right AH1Apache Apr 2012 #137
Thanks. elleng Apr 2012 #143
Guns kill people like roads kill people SATIRical Apr 2012 #191
The usual crap. Straw Man Apr 2012 #18
Thank you for making my point. ellisonz Apr 2012 #48
Why semantics are important in this debate Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #98
*yawn* ellisonz Apr 2012 #104
Is that really your point? Straw Man Apr 2012 #128
Yes. ellisonz Apr 2012 #130
Just so we're clear, ... Straw Man Apr 2012 #138
You call it "tired" because you can't call it wrong. Of what value is an petronius Apr 2012 #139
If you like... ellisonz Apr 2012 #148
You may do so gladly, but you do it mistakenly petronius Apr 2012 #153
"I actually don't know what some gun control advocates mean" ellisonz Apr 2012 #154
You may choose ambiguity over clarity if you prefer, of course petronius Apr 2012 #157
Accepting a certain-level of ambiguity is part of life... ellisonz Apr 2012 #158
And you want felony convictions based on ambiguous criteria. Straw Man Apr 2012 #164
And you want the madness to continue... ellisonz Apr 2012 #165
Please identify the madness ... Straw Man Apr 2012 #167
Easy... ellisonz Apr 2012 #168
The Brady Bill? Straw Man Apr 2012 #170
We're talking in general... ellisonz Apr 2012 #173
Why then... beevul Apr 2012 #178
Crap, crap, and more crap. Straw Man Apr 2012 #209
Clarity and precision is especially important in the context of policy petronius Apr 2012 #194
You don't know what you mean either, apparently. Straw Man Apr 2012 #162
I don't think it means what you think it means derby378 Apr 2012 #212
It's a 'noble' ignorance- why risk being 'tainted' by knowledge? X_Digger Apr 2012 #240
Talk about playing a "semantic game"... rl6214 Apr 2012 #31
They don't. n/t Clames Apr 2012 #22
I don't believe they've been asked, properly. elleng Apr 2012 #25
The majority in the country don't know what 'Assault weapons' are... rl6214 Apr 2012 #30
Which is why I conclude elleng Apr 2012 #33
I suspect a strong majority would also support stricter controls of assault weapons. DCBob Apr 2012 #28
Right. elleng Apr 2012 #36
Do you even know what an "assault weapon" is? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #39
The typical RW argument. DCBob Apr 2012 #62
So you have no clue of what your talking about AH1Apache Apr 2012 #64
if you dont know just search Google... that might help you. DCBob Apr 2012 #67
Your the one who made the claim about assault weapons AH1Apache Apr 2012 #74
Trust me.. its easy.. just type in "assault weapon".. then press "search" button. DCBob Apr 2012 #78
Is that what you were thinking of? Straw Man Apr 2012 #141
Why? What threat do they really represent? hack89 Apr 2012 #70
Are many people killed by grenades? DCBob Apr 2012 #77
Are there millions of grenades in the hands of the public? hack89 Apr 2012 #82
who said "semi-automatics" were assault weapons?? DCBob Apr 2012 #85
If you are talking about "automatics" gejohnston Apr 2012 #92
The Assault Weapon Ban only applied to semi-automatic weapons. hack89 Apr 2012 #93
thanks, thats what I thought... and isnt it relatively easy to convert a semi-automatic.. DCBob Apr 2012 #175
No. Also gejohnston Apr 2012 #176
Very hard hack89 Apr 2012 #182
There was DU discussion about this awhile back which suggested it was doable. DCBob Apr 2012 #184
Bump firing is not full auto hack89 Apr 2012 #195
You are probably right about all of this but.. DCBob Apr 2012 #197
NO, it's not rl6214 Apr 2012 #205
actually I dont. DCBob Apr 2012 #211
Ummm, that's what "Assault Weapons" are - semi auto DonP Apr 2012 #110
That's revealing... ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #111
Who? Straw Man Apr 2012 #147
Twice as many people are killed by hands and feet each year. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #100
"arms created for killing during WARS should be banned from the streets of the country." oneshooter Apr 2012 #121
Don't forget the bayonet (nt) SATIRical Apr 2012 #192
"keeping arms created for killing during WARS should be banned from the streets of the country" Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #198
I stand by my statement, elleng Apr 2012 #200
What if a war is fought with hammers and screwdrivers? Ban them too? shadowrider Apr 2012 #201
The first wars were fought with sharp rocks and fire-hardened sticks. Ban them! Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #204
Ok...so we've established that you want to ban wooden clubs. What about arms that *weren't" created Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #203
And I turned it up so I could hear it in the next room. DURHAM D Apr 2012 #4
The issue isn't gun ownership - it is responsible vs IRRESPONSIBLE gun ownership Siwsan Apr 2012 #5
Actually, the problem is drugs. TheWraith Apr 2012 #11
There's no such thing as "responsable gun ownership" baldguy Apr 2012 #219
the average person has more of a reason in a gejohnston Apr 2012 #229
The only reason to carry a gun in a city is if you think humans should be treated as prey. baldguy Apr 2012 #230
Or, one might think.... WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #237
That doctrine was once called "Mutual Assured Destruction" baldguy Apr 2012 #242
has nothing to do with MAD gejohnston Apr 2012 #243
You're afraid that some unnamed, unknown nefarious person is armed & will do you harm. baldguy Apr 2012 #245
you get this where? gejohnston Apr 2012 #246
I'll make it simple for you: Zimmerman was afraid of "gangsters", so he carried a gun. baldguy Apr 2012 #250
Look whos talking. Thats a low personal attack baldguy. Even for you. beevul Apr 2012 #251
Your response amounts to little more than "I'm rubber and you're glue..." baldguy Apr 2012 #254
Nonsense. beevul Apr 2012 #256
Wow. That's off base. NT WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #253
*Pffft* A few killings here and there, TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #6
I can't watch her... Clames Apr 2012 #9
"...they lose the capacity for rationality when guns are involved." tosh Apr 2012 #10
Maybe when progressive gun owners do something to reign in the extremist actions of the NRA hlthe2b Apr 2012 #13
He championed plenty... Clames Apr 2012 #16
While in office, he has championed ZERO gun control legislation. ZERO. again, ZERO hlthe2b Apr 2012 #19
Maybe he came to the realization... Clames Apr 2012 #24
More like has zero chance of passage, elleng Apr 2012 #27
You must have missed... Clames Apr 2012 #32
I don't believe their power is a myth. elleng Apr 2012 #47
That was political power as defined by the ability to swing elections... ellisonz Apr 2012 #61
But I thought that according to a certain poster here AH1Apache Apr 2012 #42
They are; don't know about 'a certain poster.' Will check. elleng Apr 2012 #49
Apparently it is ok that NRA supports only RWers and does everything possible to defeat Dems. hlthe2b Apr 2012 #40
Apparently its even believed by some that THAT is the truth. beevul Apr 2012 #172
a handful--mostly DINOS... and you think THAT proves your point...?! hlthe2b Apr 2012 #174
No, thats not what I think. beevul Apr 2012 #177
I have to doubt your veracity... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #180
i'm sure you do. beevul Apr 2012 #185
Here are some from 2010.. X_Digger Apr 2012 #241
Are you voting for President Obama in 2012? n/t ellisonz Apr 2012 #51
Gun worship is turning this country into a war zone. DCBob Apr 2012 #20
You mean the Wild West... Clames Apr 2012 #29
Typical of the anti-gun zealots...I am a gun owner, I hunt... rl6214 Apr 2012 #38
But, but, but AH1Apache Apr 2012 #43
reminds me a little of bit like gejohnston Apr 2012 #45
I have no idea if Im typical at all. DCBob Apr 2012 #65
I'm always skeptical of the media gejohnston Apr 2012 #80
Be careful now, gejonston. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #228
Ain't that the truth shadowrider Apr 2012 #249
War zone = lowest levels of gun violence in 50 years? Really? nt hack89 Apr 2012 #66
I suspect that will be picking up if the RW doesnt get their way this next election. DCBob Apr 2012 #73
Gun grabbers have been predicting blood in the street for years. hack89 Apr 2012 #75
somehow your assurances dont make me feel any more comfortable. DCBob Apr 2012 #81
Your paranoid fear should not be the reason I lose my civil rights. hack89 Apr 2012 #86
"Draconian"?? no. Sensible.. yes. DCBob Apr 2012 #91
Describe these loopholes. nt hack89 Apr 2012 #95
for example? gejohnston Apr 2012 #96
Annnnnnndddddd........ PavePusher Apr 2012 #213
"sounds like trouble to me." rl6214 Apr 2012 #206
everything she thinks she knows about firearms is wrong...the guns kill people types. ileus Apr 2012 #21
Doubt it. elleng Apr 2012 #23
Here is something for you and your gun buddies. I wish to hell Obama would put some gun southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #34
one thing gejohnston Apr 2012 #41
A white kid has the luxury of walking anywhere at any time without being stop. But really I don't southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #44
30,000+ gun control laws on the books AH1Apache Apr 2012 #50
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #87
for example? gejohnston Apr 2012 #99
Still with the insults AH1Apache Apr 2012 #101
You give the canned answers you do and you Gman Apr 2012 #117
Is that all you have? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #123
Dodge. PavePusher Apr 2012 #214
gun control isn't the issue gejohnston Apr 2012 #58
Why? Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #102
That is baloney. Obama hasn't instituted one gun law. Not one. If it ever got on to any ballot southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #183
Maybe that's the issue right there WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #207
Like or not ---- your right about that. I don't like and there is nothing I can do about it. So I southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #208
I'm not much of a fan of criminals with guns WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #215
Well you might be right but it still is crazy. Sometimes people kill another because they southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #218
"had something happen to their family member maybe they'd see things different." WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #216
Well to me killing the person who kills someoneelse makes it way to easy. Kill the prisoner and southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #220
Uh, I didn't say he did. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #210
Do you really want him to lose the election? hack89 Apr 2012 #69
Of course not. I am not stupid. I don't want him to give the NRA an openning. Hell they already southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #186
The only way passing rational federal gun control laws would cost Obama the election baldguy Apr 2012 #221
Do you deny the role of swing voters in presidential elections? hack89 Apr 2012 #223
Are you advocating that Democratic gun owners abandon Obama in 2012? baldguy Apr 2012 #226
since it has been written out of the 2012 gejohnston Apr 2012 #231
So, if gun control is included in the 2012 party platform, you won't support the Democrats? baldguy Apr 2012 #232
did not avoid the question gejohnston Apr 2012 #234
Since you refuse to answer a simple, point-blank question, I'll answer it for you. baldguy Apr 2012 #238
No - I am saying that he would alienate independents and other swing voters hack89 Apr 2012 #235
She wasn't getting to the root cause of the violence TomClash Apr 2012 #37
Few DO get to the root of the violence; elleng Apr 2012 #52
Alot of it, in my humble opinion, AH1Apache Apr 2012 #55
Her irrational screeds on firearms are often factually flawed...which decreases ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #127
When I turned off Rachel on 1/11/11 I never turned her back on. Simo 1939_1940 Apr 2012 #163
I have to agree Meiko Apr 2012 #199
Kicking This One...... Paladin Apr 2012 #217
I had no idea being pro-2A and pro-gun was hyper-conservative shadowrider Apr 2012 #224
If you support RW Republican orgs & their goals, how can you claim to be a Democrat? baldguy Apr 2012 #225
Well, as usual you didn't answer the question but I'm used to the ball shadowrider Apr 2012 #236
The NRA is a RW conservative org aligned with the GOP. baldguy Apr 2012 #239
And you are wrong. Clames Apr 2012 #247
This is how: (and it is a most thoughtful and coherent thesis) Simo 1939_1940 Apr 2012 #248
Urban fear fightforfreedom123 Apr 2012 #252
Right..... fightthegoodfightnow Apr 2012 #255
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