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COLGATE4

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37. I wouldn't necessarily disagree. The real problem

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 01:22 PM

Mar 2012

seems to occur 1) outside the home (or vehicle) or 2) when the only real reason for using deadly force was in defense of property.

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As long as I can fight back, I will [View all] mvccd1000 Mar 2012 OP

The home owner did the right thing. safeinOhio Mar 2012 #1

This case would appear to be a bit more cut and dry than the Zimmerman case. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #28

I take it you don't much understand conditional probability enki23 Mar 2012 #2

Sure, doesn't it go something like this safeinOhio Mar 2012 #4

So you're saying the problem is corruption with the SPD then? eqfan592 Mar 2012 #30

How about shooting over the intruder's head once? Loudly Mar 2012 #3

The man stated that safeinOhio Mar 2012 #5

Good thing the other guys didn't know that. Loudly Mar 2012 #8

Now there was this fellow... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #14

I would be very worried about someone with one bullet JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2012 #19

for starters, the same reason you don't shoot guns in the air on New Years gejohnston Mar 2012 #16

So as between shooting to bluff and shooting to kill? Loudly Mar 2012 #25

you missed the point gejohnston Mar 2012 #26

You're shooting to stop, not to kill. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #32

How ethical is it to fire blindly through a wall or ceiling into someone's apartment? hack89 Mar 2012 #33

Yes. NewMoonTherian Mar 2012 #67

Sure he could do that... Clames Mar 2012 #21

Warning shots over someone's head are a bad idea ... spin Mar 2012 #34

You may get an innocent killed that way. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #41

Very bad idea. GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #44

It honestly scares me when people suggest that. Union Scribe Mar 2012 #45

There's this t-shirt... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #6

Looks like something some safeinOhio Mar 2012 #7

I suppose you could say that. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #10

got ya. safeinOhio Mar 2012 #11

You can tell if it's a good day... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #13

Betcha Zimmerman had something similar in his bureau! krispos42 Mar 2012 #31

Ahhh the classic Mozambique drill ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #9

re: "...why didn't you shoot them just once." discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #12

The history of the name is interesting ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #15

Mike Rousseau and the RLI are rather legendary. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #17

Shoot them just once? BiggJawn Mar 2012 #50

Didn't he know guns kill people? Hidden criminal? pollute socitey? ileus Mar 2012 #18

Under preexisting law there's no duty to COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #20

I know you'd like to believe this... Clames Mar 2012 #22

So? COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #23

depends gejohnston Mar 2012 #27

In the final analysis it always COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #36

Of course the possibility exists... Clames Mar 2012 #29

You're confusing two terms here. COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #35

Not confusing anything. Clames Mar 2012 #39

In other words, "if I think it was O.K. it's O.K." COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #54

You're right... mvccd1000 Mar 2012 #24

I wouldn't necessarily disagree. The real problem COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #37

How is this a problem? Clames Mar 2012 #40

The law does not usually permit the COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #47

I've always found that to be rather altruistic. Clames Mar 2012 #49

It's not altruism. It's our common law, derived from the COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #52

English common law... Clames Mar 2012 #58

so, you approve of the "wild west" gejohnston Mar 2012 #48

I'm sorry, but I really don't understand the COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #53

don't worry gejohnston Mar 2012 #57

"The point-blank blast hurled the intruder backward through the doorway and onto White's driveway." PavePusher Mar 2012 #38

LOL! Glad I wasn't the only one who read that part and thought it was ridiculous. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #42

wasn't blown there by the force of the bullet alone discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #43

Exactly. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #46

Just examining the physics discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #55

I'm going to say your math is way off. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #63

His math is fine. Clames Mar 2012 #65

My numbers... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #66

There's a substantial shockwave ... Straw Man Mar 2012 #56

I don't doubt that the man ended up in the street, or driveway. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #59

I think we're in agreement here. Straw Man Mar 2012 #60

Myth Busters proved gunshots do not throw anyone backwards. It was a good show. Logical Mar 2012 #51

They blew the CRAP out of that pig. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #64

Well this is complete bullshit nonsense. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #61

Very true... spin Mar 2012 #62

I won't start a fight but, I reserve the right to protect myself. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #68

Seems to me an SKS is a bit overkill (pun intended) for home defense liberaltrucker Apr 2012 #69