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TPaine7

(4,286 posts)
16. Hmmmm...
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 01:48 AM
Mar 2012

From the OP:

......Florida's statute on the use of force in self-defense is virtually identical to Section 1 of ALEC's Castle Doctrine Act model legislation as posted on the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD). According to CMD, the model bill was adopted by ALEC's Civil Justice Task in August 2005 -- just a few short months after it passed the Florida legislature -- and approved by its board of directors the following month.

Since the 2005 passage of Florida's law, similar statutes have been passed in 16 other states. This was no accident. In a 2008 interview with NRA News, ALEC resident fellow Michael Hough explained how his organization works with the NRA to push similar legislation through its network of conservative state legislators....


Let's summarize:

1. First Florida adopted a law
2. Next ALEC adopted a "virtually identical" model legislation
3. Lastly, ALEC worked with the NRA to push similar laws

So it would seem that, according to the OP at least, the answer to the question is obvious. No, ALEC has not authored anything. Other states have joined ALEC in following the law authored by Florida legislators. ALEC and the NRA have pushed them to follow Florida.

Or am I missing something?
No, really, I have answered as you demand, you have nothing to say to prove me wrong? Kick Dragonfli Mar 2012 #1
All I know is: Koch $s > ALEC > Defeat Obama and progressive measures. freshwest Mar 2012 #2
Actually it is more like Koch $=ALEC=Mass Conservative Legislation=Defeat Progressive Measures, but Dragonfli Mar 2012 #3
It would appear that the Koch/GOP is using the NRA as a front group. freshwest Mar 2012 #14
Regarding your last sentence, the scarriest thing of all is I see it as quite possible. Dragonfli Mar 2012 #15
It's a horrible thought, but could their push to liberalize gun laws nationally be a plan to help... freshwest Mar 2012 #17
When one is thinking of men such as these, one naturally fears the worst Dragonfli Mar 2012 #19
ummmm no gejohnston Mar 2012 #20
Looks more like a hissy fit, than a fainting spell, especially after you said ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #4
sarcasm is dangerous.... Dragonfli Mar 2012 #5
When you actually post some, let us know ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #10
??????????????????? gejohnston Mar 2012 #6
sigh, perhaps knowledge is less common than I imagined Dragonfli Mar 2012 #7
OK gejohnston Mar 2012 #12
In all seriousness... sarisataka Mar 2012 #8
Well, do a search, You can start with my link, it was the first of many results. Dragonfli Mar 2012 #11
Quite interesting sarisataka Mar 2012 #22
You are very thoughtful about these weapon issues, I don't worry about people like you Dragonfli Mar 2012 #25
Extremism leads to counter extremism sarisataka Mar 2012 #42
BTW sarisataka Mar 2012 #43
What on earth are you talking about? beevul Mar 2012 #9
linking to a post and stalking a poster that had one locked so directly could get one banned sir. Dragonfli Mar 2012 #13
Ok. I found the thread. beevul Mar 2012 #21
I GUESS I was wrong about ALEC, they do not work with the koch brothers and the templates are not RW Dragonfli Mar 2012 #23
I did not do what you claim, I only agreed with people, sarcastically,not the same as the charges Dragonfli Mar 2012 #24
These words are not yours then? beevul Mar 2012 #28
I think Max Bauccus is a right wing Democrat too, I guess we can't use that word anymore for him Dragonfli Mar 2012 #33
I think cheeseburgers taste good. beevul Mar 2012 #41
I called a right wing Democrat a Right Winger, is truth really that offensive? Dragonfli Mar 2012 #55
You did so without any knowledge of that posters views OTHER THAN on guns. beevul Mar 2012 #57
Iverglas has some jello for you. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #30
As is usual in this forum. beevul Mar 2012 #27
Read post #33 Dragonfli Mar 2012 #34
Hmmmm... TPaine7 Mar 2012 #16
No I don't think you missed anything, I just interpret it as they did what they do. Dragonfli Mar 2012 #18
ALEC boarders on treason. 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #26
WTF are you even talking about? Callisto32 Mar 2012 #29
If you can't behave yourself and act like an adult pipoman Mar 2012 #31
Read post number 33, You don't have to threaten me, I will just leave but will not call Dragonfli Mar 2012 #36
This illusion you support pipoman Mar 2012 #49
I am going away because I am not a conservative, I don't likwe what ALEC and the GOP are doing Dragonfli Mar 2012 #51
You really aren't seeing the pipoman Mar 2012 #52
The reason for his/her temper tantrum is in the thread below rl6214 Mar 2012 #56
Since when has it been OK pipoman Mar 2012 #59
for some learnèd discussion of Florida's "castle doctrine" law iverglas Mar 2012 #32
Though I agree with some points by you and your cited authorities, I couldn't help notice TPaine7 Mar 2012 #44
yuppers iverglas Mar 2012 #45
Mundane sophistry TPaine7 Mar 2012 #47
ALEC didn't exist one-eyed fat man Mar 2012 #35
Right-Wingers support self-defense laws! News at 11! Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #37
Nice clubhouse. rrneck Mar 2012 #38
I know, the country has moved on to call Reagan policies Democratic and the club doesnt want Dragonfli Mar 2012 #39
Because your "club" rrneck Mar 2012 #40
You do not understand even the basics of what I honestrly tried to explain to you Dragonfli Mar 2012 #53
Bye. nt rrneck Mar 2012 #54
Don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out rl6214 Mar 2012 #58
ALEC and SYG suck jpak Mar 2012 #46
Let me fix it for you gejohnston Mar 2012 #48
William Jennings Bryan gejohnston Mar 2012 #50
Locking krispos42 Mar 2012 #60
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