Gun Control & RKBA

DrDan

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84. of course you were implying that

Reply to Atypical Liberal (Reply #81)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 05:49 PM

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The Trayton Martin shooter had a concealed weapons permit [View all] jpak Mar 2012 OP

But, but but..... baldguy Mar 2012 #1

You must have also thought... krispos42 Mar 2012 #2

How many teenagers do not wear hoodies? jpak Mar 2012 #3

Exactly. Hoyt Mar 2012 #9

Perhaps you should ask your former LEO relative what to look for. PavePusher Mar 2012 #24

Well, he's no longer alive. But, I bet he would have arrested Zimmerman -- unlike you guys Hoyt Mar 2012 #27

I'd like you to cite to where anyone has defended Zimmerman. PavePusher Mar 2012 #35

"Social Cleansers" have different standards of truth- like Rick Santorum talking about contraception friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #40

The "pro-choice" side? LOL Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #87

Your obvious insinuation is obvious. PavePusher Mar 2012 #88

OMG, my obvious is obvious? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #92

There are a few... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #112

And what would the third option be? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #113

The third option... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #115

It's pretty easy to discriminate a 'bad guy' from the general populace. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #116

A percentage greater than zero. krispos42 Mar 2012 #50

Your post is just on the edge of overt racism. Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #5

The OP is just on the edge of overt racism and my post here will likely get hidden for pointing out Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #6

I assume his point is half-white people shouldn't be allowed 2A rights. ileus Mar 2012 #7

My point was quite clear. Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #14

Why would that be racist? All those black bloc little farts in the black hoodies MADem Mar 2012 #18

that was not the intent of the post Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #21

Maybe I'm "hoodie-inoculated." MADem Mar 2012 #23

Actually, pipoman Mar 2012 #96

WTF? PavePusher Mar 2012 #36

A good dog whistle is always deniable. Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #38

So is a baseless accusation. Put that card back in the deck, you'll need it later. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #39

WTF is that supposed to mean? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #86

I'm noting the use of broad brushes to paint people. krispos42 Mar 2012 #99

No, CCW holders HARDLY EVER break the law. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #12

The statement is true ... spin Mar 2012 #17

technically, we don't know how often anyone BREAKS the law... Scout Mar 2012 #67

So, what, they're supah-dupah ninjas at not getting caught?!? X_Digger Mar 2012 #68

nope. try reading for comprehension. n/t Scout Mar 2012 #77

What leads you to believe that their breaking the law to getting caught ratio is any different? X_Digger Mar 2012 #78

i didn't say that. and it's not a useless point. Scout Mar 2012 #98

Hmm! Let's think about that Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #102

*rather* *might* *heard of*.. so you got squat, that about the size of it? n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #110

Of course. Anything else would be speculation. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #71

Cite or retract the mendacious hyperbole, please. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #26

Tht's perfect satire of a ridiculous strawman argument so many anti-CCWers make aikoaiko Mar 2012 #28

Good thing you put the sarcasm thingy cuz as usual rl6214 Mar 2012 #59

It's a good thing SOME gunners understand what "sarcasm" means. baldguy Mar 2012 #61

That doesn't mean that you know anything about what you're talking about. oneshooter Mar 2012 #74

Rude part Minority Racist Toter....only full minorities should own firearms. ileus Mar 2012 #4

And your link to prove the OP is where, exactly? shadowrider Mar 2012 #8

You can look it up, rather than continuing to support the man who murdered an unarmed teenager. Hoyt Mar 2012 #10

Can you show me where I supported him? shadowrider Mar 2012 #31

It appears your factose intolerance is acting up again... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #41

It was reported on NBC news last night jpak Mar 2012 #19

I am confident charges are coming DrDan Mar 2012 #11

Another case of a stupid guntoter hiding behind the stupid stand-your-ground-law jpak Mar 2012 #22

Murder is the unlawful killing, with malice aforethought, of another human rl6214 Mar 2012 #60

Second degree murder JonLP24 Mar 2012 #101

Zimmerman got OUT OF HIS CAR HockeyMom Mar 2012 #111

Yes, when everyone has the right to defend themselves, some people will abuse that right. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #13

so a little collateral damage is acceptable . . . . DrDan Mar 2012 #15

it sounds like you are gejohnston Mar 2012 #16

there was no self defense Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #25

not what I said at all gejohnston Mar 2012 #48

self-defense? not shown in either case - and 2 innocents are dead DrDan Mar 2012 #30

then what was your point about "collateral damage being acceptable?" gejohnston Mar 2012 #49

How much "collateral damage" is acceptable in the practice of medicine? oneshooter Mar 2012 #42

no idea - I can say there is not much DrDan Mar 2012 #44

Most docs carry insurance to cover damages -- howsabout the gun-carrying culture do same. Hoyt Mar 2012 #46

So what price do you put on a persons life? oneshooter Mar 2012 #47

not sure many in this culture consider their damage as "damage" DrDan Mar 2012 #52

I do, but it is insanely cheap because it is so rare. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #64

Wait until more and more yahoos carry, more police wannabees, more Zimmermans and Loughners, etc. Hoyt Mar 2012 #73

Oh yes, I'll keep waiting. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #76

We accept it with other rights. krispos42 Mar 2012 #51

No matter what you do there will be innocents hurt. GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #56

let's be clear in the context of this thread - this was far from self-defense on Zimmerman's part DrDan Mar 2012 #58

But you seem to be wanting to do away with ALL armed self-defense. GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #62

NO one is claiming that Zimmerman acted in self-defense. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #65

Yes, a little collateral damage IS acceptable. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #63

actions by a "tiny minority" lead to legislation frequently DrDan Mar 2012 #69

Which is why I am part of an organization that defends my rights. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #70

the NRA certainly has had success the past few years - much to the detriment of the rest of us DrDan Mar 2012 #72

In what way has it been a detriment? Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #75

so gun laws are causing a decrease in violent crime - link please DrDan Mar 2012 #79

I did not say gun laws are CAUSING a decreasing in violent crime. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #81

of course you were implying that DrDan Mar 2012 #84

Right. Like you clearly implied that conditions were getting worse.... PavePusher Mar 2012 #89

No, as I have said many times... Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #90

no way you can make that conclusion DrDan Mar 2012 #91

LOL, it's not a "conclusion", it is a plain old fact. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #95

bull DrDan Mar 2012 #97

Ah, but that's *not* what he said friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #100

it is exactly what he said DrDan Mar 2012 #106

but he did not say gejohnston Mar 2012 #107

and I never said he did DrDan Mar 2012 #108

You are correct. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #114

as to the "detriment to the rest of us" - I wonder what Trayvon Martin's family DrDan Mar 2012 #80

The people now have a right to stand up to violence without a duty to retreat. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #82

not when it results in loss of innocent lives . . . but then again, guns are not my priority DrDan Mar 2012 #85

duty to retreat results in more innocent lives gejohnston Mar 2012 #94

Yes, a few dead black kids is small price to pay to pack heat and use it jpak Mar 2012 #20

he was in danger of getting away . . . according to the 911 tapes DrDan Mar 2012 #33

Toters like Zimmerman have spent too much time preparing for an opportunity to shoot some kid. Hoyt Mar 2012 #43

I agree with that completely! This guy was waiting for this "opportunity" DrDan Mar 2012 #45

Race is irrelevant. People have the right to self-defense. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #66

The Martin shooting is deeply troubling based on initial press, but I'm waiting ... aikoaiko Mar 2012 #29

Agreed shadowrider Mar 2012 #32

thread winner. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #34

I'm reminded of a Monty Python skit. Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #37

So he's guilty based on newspaper reports shadowrider Mar 2012 #53

In my opinion he should have been arrested and charged with murder. Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #54

I'm not denying police conduct is suspect shadowrider Mar 2012 #55

Agreed. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #93

His version is likely to be bullshit JonLP24 Mar 2012 #103

"Likely" to be bullshit shadowrider Mar 2012 #104

I'm not advocating for what you say in your first sentence JonLP24 Mar 2012 #105

We won't hear Martins side shadowrider Mar 2012 #109

On the basis of what one person does you want... GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #57

Hmm. Where to start on this hyperbolic composition fallacy? montanto Mar 2012 #83