Gun Control & RKBA

Dial H For Hero

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11. How is emphasizing the need for the 4 rules of gun safety against safety?

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 03:30 PM

Dec 2021

I would also point out that the vast majority of firearm self defense classes instruct their students to carry a round in the chamber. Are all of them (and the vast majority of law enforcement, for that matter) against safety?

One question? Are you ever wrong about guns?

On factual matters (on this forum) it's quite rare...but should I be shown to be incorrect, I will readily acknowledge the error.

On matters of policy, though, there is no objective "right" or "wrong", just opinion.

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Compromising with gun owners is the ONLY feasible path to passing meaningful gun control [View all] PTWB Dec 2021 OP

I would be happy if a law was passed that prohibits a round in the chamber. pwb Dec 2021 #1

As I read the original op I thought about the difference between Responsible Gun abqtommy Dec 2021 #3

If it's irresponsible to carry a round in the chamber, why does law enforcement do so? Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #4

You are always looking for a fight. pwb Dec 2021 #7

I disagree with most on this forum on this particular issue, and am not hesitant to explain why. Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #8

Yeah see, you are even against safety. pwb Dec 2021 #10

How is emphasizing the need for the 4 rules of gun safety against safety? Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #11

I would walk out if someone suggested a round in the chamber. pwb Dec 2021 #12

Given that, there would be no point in you attending such a class, given that they almost Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #13

Yeah I don't need any lessons. pwb Dec 2021 #14

The use of weapons in combat and the use of firearms in legal self defense have some overlap, but Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #19

So why do you think that makes you special? oneshooter Dec 2021 #33

Who said I was special? You did. pwb Dec 2021 #39

Never said that you were "special". oneshooter Dec 2021 #40

And you think you are? pwb Dec 2021 #41

Never said or claimed that I was. oneshooter Dec 2021 #47

Never said or claimed that I was. oneshooter Dec 2021 #48

You assumed that I thought I was special. You said pwb Dec 2021 #49

I actually recommended that you *not* take firearms self defense lessons, if you'll recall. Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #42

I don't need your recommendations. Thank you. pwb Dec 2021 #43

Just trying to help! Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #44

I am just not ready for War a home. pwb Dec 2021 #45

Neither am I. War and legitimate self defense are two very different things. Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #46

Haven't you heard? PTWB Dec 2021 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author oneshooter Dec 2021 #36

Here's a good debate about that topic. PTWB Dec 2021 #25

There's a legitimate debate to be had, but labeling anyone "irresponsible" and "unsafe" because they Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #26

Certainly absurd. PTWB Dec 2021 #51

Would you please answer the question. oneshooter Dec 2021 #32

A thoughtful, reasonable proposal. On this forum, it will go nowhere. Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #2

Interesting atreides1 Dec 2021 #5

You sound like Manchin Cartoonist Dec 2021 #6

OP has made some good points Ferryboat Dec 2021 #9

A reasonable person is supposed to compromise with this? AndyS Dec 2021 #15

Back again? PTWB Dec 2021 #16

It has only important thing you want. Good bye. AndyS Dec 2021 #17

Have a good one bud. PTWB Dec 2021 #18

I actually have come up with what I (humbly) think would be a reasonable compromise. Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #21

I don't think anyone could argue against that. PTWB Dec 2021 #23

Thank you, but I'm confident that they can and will. The moment "assault weapons" are mentioned, Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #27

Gunowners will not agree with ANY of this. EOM oneshooter Dec 2021 #35

On the whole I agree. It's simply a thought experiment. Both sides are far too entrenched for any Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #37

You have some overblown/incorrect statements here: yagotme Dec 2021 #38

This is why any compromise legislation has an uphill fight. Hangingon Dec 2021 #50

No gun control advocate would disagree with any of these. Gun humpers have already Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #20

Gun control advocates certainly do disagree with the compromises listed at the end of the OP. Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #22

Nonsense. PTWB Dec 2021 #24

LOL! Poor, poor gun humpers. Their rights are always being trampled, and we should offer them Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #28

What does this have to do with your first post in this thread? PTWB Dec 2021 #29

No, dear. You are using the disagreement in this thread to say, "See? They are terrible Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #30

I think you may be confused. PTWB Dec 2021 #34

See what I mean? Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #31

Just being realistic... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #52

Because we all get what we want if we compromise in the ways I suggested. PTWB Dec 2021 #53