Once again, you've demonstrated that pious fraud is part and parcel of gun control advocacy (Reply #49)

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Thu Jun 6, 2019, 11:51 AM

friendly_iconoclast (15,166 posts)

49. Once again, you've demonstrated that pious fraud is part and parcel of gun control advocacy

See also reply #46 in this thread.

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88 replies	Author	Time	Post
How the NRA Rewrote the 2nd Amendment -- The Founders never intended to create unregulated guns [View all]	sharedvalues	May 2019	OP
Thanks for posting this	mainstreetonce	May 2019	#1
...	flamin lib	May 2019	#2
The fact that Scalia redacted 1/2 of the 2nd Amendment to support his "originalist" view	guillaumeb	May 2019	#3
Scalia specifically said that the 2A allows strict gun control	hack89	Jun 2019	#7
True, but he did need to dismiss 1/2 of the Amendment to support his claimed originalist argument.	guillaumeb	Jun 2019	#16
President Obama, HRC and Bernie Sanders have all said the 2A protects an individual right	hack89	Jun 2019	#17
It was, for the Founders.	guillaumeb	Jun 2019	#19
Except they never wrote any laws to that effect	hack89	Jun 2019	#20
The Founders were concerned with Federal issues. eom	guillaumeb	Jun 2019	#21
according to Barron v Baltimore,	gejohnston	Jun 2019	#22
But those same founders went back to their states to write state constitutions	hack89	Jun 2019	#23
The Consistution does make a provision for a standing army	gladium et scutum	Jun 2019	#29
Agreed.	Snackshack	May 2019	#4
From a centrist establishment type, formerly someone evenkeeled.	sharedvalues	May 2019	#5
"(Y)ou will not smear them or Waldman." My my, aren't we full of ourselves!	friendly_iconoclast	May 2019	#6
You did smear Waldman. You know your argument is flawed.	sharedvalues	Jun 2019	#10
Ahem. You don't actually get to shape others' replies to you. Also...	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#27
No, I do get to point out lies.	sharedvalues	Jun 2019	#31
Wait- if you buy guns or ammo you help get kids killed.	sharedvalues	Jun 2019	#32
"Pastor Robert Jeffress Says Disney Supports 'Murdering Children'...	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#36
Deflection. Own your responsibility.	sharedvalues	Jun 2019	#37
Feh. Eric Hoffer explained people like you years ago:	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#42
"If the gun restrictionists quit aping the fetus fetishists, the meme will go away."	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#43
Thanks for that	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2019	#44
The Supreme Court agrees with Burger	hack89	Jun 2019	#8
The Heller decision is a farce that puts kids at risk	sharedvalues	Jun 2019	#9
Heller specifically says the 2A allows strict gun control.	hack89	Jun 2019	#13
You just don't understand progressive guilt by association	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#34
Lots of obvious propaganda techniques, little to no actual evidence	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#28
That's a dead kid. Sorry you don't like actual evidence.	sharedvalues	Jun 2019	#30
Blatant propaganda and cheap appeals to pity don't move me, and never have	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#33
Another Lovejoy.	Straw Man	Jun 2019	#35
Of rights and straw men.	MarvinGardens	Jun 2019	#11
"...a bit of a straw man." But I would rec this were it an OP	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2019	#14
Thanks!	MarvinGardens	Jun 2019	#15
1939 Miller decision makes your claims invalid	jimmy the one	Jun 2019	#46
Sounds like the gestation slavers claiming that Roe v Wade ought to be overturned	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#48
militia blasts from the past	jimmy the one	Jun 2019	#51
I'm neither impressed nor intimidated by mere bluster and chronic logorrhea	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#53
The modern N.C. constitution added the qualifier	MarvinGardens	Jun 2019	#66
1939 miller explained further	jimmy the one	Jun 2019	#76
You are laser focused on Miller and ignoring my other arguments in this thread.	MarvinGardens	Jun 2019	#77
It seems Con Law lectures at Internet Search Engine University focus on Miller...	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#78
Let's see here...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2019	#79
Well, when you only have one decision, rendered because the defendant died, and the defense didn't	AtheistCrusader	Jun 2019	#81
If I understand you,	sarisataka	Jun 2019	#12
re: "...better to submit...than to defend one's self"	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2019	#24
With complete unawareness of the irony,	sarisataka	Jun 2019	#26
Perhaps if a whole city calls to request a police escort...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2019	#39
Burger's rant	gejohnston	Jun 2019	#18
If you buy guns and ammo you help get American kids killed.	sharedvalues	Jun 2019	#40
it wasn't	gejohnston	Jun 2019	#41
What consensus legal opinion?	hack89	Jun 2019	#45
Once again, you've demonstrated that pious fraud is part and parcel of gun control advocacy	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#49
Miller? The case where the defense never made an argument?	hack89	Jun 2019	#55
"(Miller) did not say that militia service is required for gun ownership." True...	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#56
Pardon me for interjecting my rather focused discussion on Miller	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2019	#58
You weren't to notice those inconvenient details amidst all the bluster and handwaving	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#60
See reply below for legal opinion	sharedvalues	Jun 2019	#65
re: "Republicans love guns because gun identity politics gets people...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2019	#25
Wrong. I just checked.	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2019	#38
1939 supreme court Miller decision re 2ndA	jimmy the one	Jun 2019	#47
Miller is no more valid today than Minersville School District v. Gobitis	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#50
And if it was, we'd all have the right to own an Army-issue (and fully automatic) M4...	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#59
"a unorganized militia is NOT well regulated. It could not possibly be what madison intended"	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#61
IOW: "No true militia is unorganized"	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#63
Thank you - very good!	sharedvalues	Jun 2019	#80
Of course, because it's wrong in the same way your argument is wrong.	AtheistCrusader	Jun 2019	#82
I'm sorry you can't recognize truth when you see it.	sharedvalues	Jun 2019	#83
When I buy ammo, I give 11% to nature conservancy.	AtheistCrusader	Jun 2019	#86
You're having a discussion with someone who rewrote the dictionary	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2019	#85
Evangelists of all stripes want believers, not thinkers. Thinkers tend to ask pesky questions...	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#87
When your "church" says the world is flat...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2019	#88
2A - Well regulated militia, not well armed minority	bigbrother05	Jun 2019	#52
What are you doing to arm the majority?	friendly_iconoclast	Jun 2019	#54
There are so many appropriate quotes from the movie Lord of War	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2019	#84
Thanks. Yes.	sharedvalues	Jun 2019	#64
I hope to make this the subject of an OP, soon.	MarvinGardens	Jun 2019	#67
Only in America is the problem	MythosMaster	Jun 2019	#57
Welcome to the site and the group.	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2019	#62
"The Founders never intended to create unregulated guns"	yagotme	Jun 2019	#68
?	sharedvalues	Jun 2019	#69
The way to "register" guns is to make a list,	yagotme	Jun 2019	#70
How does this work when semiautomatics are banned?	sharedvalues	Jun 2019	#71
It's 2 simple steps	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2019	#72
Good question.	yagotme	Jun 2019	#73
Guess its good they are regulated then.	jmg257	Jun 2019	#74
It was never meant to be just militia.	gejohnston	Jun 2019	#75

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