Gun Control & RKBA

friendly_iconoclast

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44. Ahem: Australian cops upgun: "(Victoria) Police set sights on faster reloading guns"

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 05:33 PM

Feb 2018

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x314775

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-04-30/police-set-sights-on-faster-reloading-guns/416062?site=gippsland

Police set sights on faster reloading guns

The Police Superintendent in East Gippsland says new semi-automatic pistols will enable police officers to better defend themselves in a shoot-out.

The Victorian Government has awarded a $7 million contract to replace police revolvers with semi-automatic pistols.

The police union had previously claimed an officer in Melbourne was shot in the leg while reloading a revolver during a shoot-out in 2008.

Superintendent Geoff Newby says the new semi-automatic pistols will improve police safety when they arrive later this year.

"Well they'll have 15 shots before they need to reload as opposed to previously they would've had to have taken some form of reload action after six shots and of course during that time we're trained to do that at reasonable speed, under pressure that can take a little while and put you at risk, so from a safety aspect we're very pleased that we've got that option," he said....

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victoria-police-switches-to-semiautomatic-weapons-20100429-tt44.html

Victoria Police officers will no longer carry revolvers as it switches to rapid-firing semi-automatic weapons.

Deputy Commissioner Kieran Walshe this morning revealed police would be rearmed with .40 calibre Smith & Wesson M & P (military and police) semi-automatic pistols...

...South Australian Police have been using Smith & Wesson semi-automatics since last year.

The reader will note that this happened fourteen years after the Australian gun confiscations oft touted
by the OP. Which raises a couple of questions for me:

1. Does this mean that the gun buyback didn't actually work?

2. And if that buyback did work as claimed, does it mean that cops will always want the newest and shiniest thing
that goes bang, the opinions of would-be social engineers notwithstanding?

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Police lives are put at risk by a country awash in guns [View all] sharedvalues Feb 2018 OP

There is a god awful waste of humans in this country efhmc Feb 2018 #1

Tragic but keep an open mind NorenForSenateNY Feb 2018 #2

Yes! If the policeman only had a gun he would not have died! sharedvalues Feb 2018 #3

Yes. fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #4

thank the evil NRA and the weak thinking of their followers. demosincebirth Feb 2018 #6

Actually it looks more like there is no correlation: EX500rider Feb 2018 #22

Perhaps we should strive to compare the US to other modern economies. fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #23

Since the entire US homicide rate by any means is under 5.. EX500rider Feb 2018 #24

LOL fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #25

Perhaps you would like a state by state view? fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #26

which includes suicide by firearm, gejohnston Feb 2018 #30

Ya, that's not gun violence at all. fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #31

so the other half is rope violence? gejohnston Feb 2018 #32

I think I"m mostly agreeing with you. fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #33

Again, homicide and suicide are different things that will require different solutions. EX500rider Feb 2018 #34

Go with what makes you feel better. nt fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #35

Inflate the numbers if it makes you feel better. EX500rider Feb 2018 #41

If jumping off a bridge isn't bridge violence and hanging yourself isn't rope violence.. EX500rider Feb 2018 #42

WHO, nt fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #43

Love this chart. The NYT did it too. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #37

+1 nt Canoe52 Feb 2018 #11

If all guns were locked away in militia buildings as the Constitution suggests Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #16

If this was the original intent, can you provide examples where it was enforced? Marengo Feb 2018 #17

Got an Encylopedia Britanica handy? You'll have finished reading it before you get an answer... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #18

Would you please show me what passage of the Constitution that is in? n/t oneshooter Feb 2018 #36

Yup. As they do in other countries. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #38

Which countries would that be? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #45

As typical with that one, no answer when challenged... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #46

I was held at gun point. My though wasn't 'why don't I have a pistol', but 'how did the 16yr old... marble falls Feb 2018 #20

Shouldn't police officers be on the forefront of gun control - and why aren't they? demosincebirth Feb 2018 #5

They often are but are not listen to. efhmc Feb 2018 #7

The rank-and-file tend to be very pro-2nd Amendment ... SeattleVet Feb 2018 #9

A small price to pay so a subset of Americans can have fun shooting up cans and signs. Kablooie Feb 2018 #8

The shooter was a 4 time felon who illegally had a gun. Hangingon Feb 2018 #15

If you familiarize yourself with the OP's, ahem, "body of work", a question naturally arises: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #19

But they vote for the more gunnnnz people NCDem777 Feb 2018 #10

No. Bad apples need to be punished sharedvalues Feb 2018 #13

There's a few things I can agree with. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #14

Nope. They brought this on themselves NCDem777 Feb 2018 #21

K & R SunSeeker Feb 2018 #12

Meanwhile they hold gun-raffles to push more guns into the population. DetlefK Feb 2018 #27

Some of them do. Many police are good people. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #39

Not just police lives. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #28

Could this fact be one of the reasons why the federal government is pushing municipalities no_hypocrisy Feb 2018 #29

Yes that's exactly the justification given. If we banned handguns and semi-autos we could sharedvalues Feb 2018 #40

Ahem: Australian cops upgun: "(Victoria) Police set sights on faster reloading guns" friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #44

Hmmm, yagotme Feb 2018 #47

Your proof that we need more gun control is proof that gun control doesn't work. Always Right Mar 2018 #48

Fewer guns, fewer deaths. sharedvalues Mar 2018 #49

A label isn't an argument n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #50

...nor is rote recitation of simplistic platitudes and appeals to emotion friendly_iconoclast Mar 2018 #51

Proof here. NRA afraid of data. That's why they banned govt from collecting it. sharedvalues Mar 2018 #54

Proof here. NRA afraid of data; they know it will show gun control works. sharedvalues Mar 2018 #55

You need to tap the base of the turntable a few times, the record keeps skipping... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2018 #56

I'll let that comprehensive study speak for itself. n/m sharedvalues Mar 2018 #58

A lie isn't an argument discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #57

I'll let that comprehensive study speak for itself abt effects of NRA fed funding ban. n/m sharedvalues Mar 2018 #59

You keep up talking about bans discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #60

Proof that NRA/GOP is afraid of data; they know gun control works sharedvalues Mar 2018 #53

Citation appreciated Always Right Mar 2018 #61

Stop misrepresenting. RAND study shows GOP blocks fed research on guns. read my cite. nm sharedvalues Mar 2018 #62

You need to work on your reading comprehension Always Right Mar 2018 #63

Helen? Puha Ekapi_2 Mar 2018 #52