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one-eyed fat man

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84. The "procedural irregularities"
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:32 PM
Feb 2012

that prevent Miller's counsel from showing up was that the Attorney General, Homer Cummings not only fast tracked the case to the Supreme Court, Miller's lawyer was not notified until too late.

Gun control was a part of the New Deal program and legislation that would compel all sportsmen to register their firearms and store them in armories when they are not being used for hunting or target purposes had been proposed and was being debated in Congress.

So it was no surprise when Attorney General Homer Cummings, acted immediately to overturn the lower court judge, bypassing the Federal Appeals Courts and going directly to the USSC. The unprecedented speed with which the Federal government reacted was telling. From arrest to Supreme Court decision in under 11 months. Also curious, only the Solicitor General made arguments or briefed the appeal. The counsel for defense wasn't invited.

Makes one wonder, until you remember the Attorney General also said, “We certainly don’t expect gangsters to come forward to register their weapons and be fingerprinted, and a $200 tax is frankly prohibitive to private citizens.”

What a crock! They lost they should pay! one-eyed fat man Feb 2012 #1
My personal favorite ... too much for the taxpayers! DonP Feb 2012 #2
My DC Vote is Pay Them fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #12
I don't picture gejohnston Feb 2012 #18
They Did Both fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #22
What Are You Talking About fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #3
They are also paying for gejohnston Feb 2012 #4
What am I talking about? burf Feb 2012 #5
Hypocrisy? fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #6
That pesky Constitution thingie does get in the way sometimes, doesn't it? n/t burf Feb 2012 #7
Pesky? fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #8
I guess that means a state could start ignoring the Thirteenth Amendment if they wanted to, yes? n/t PavePusher Feb 2012 #37
It's All Toilet Paper fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #40
I sure do. But you don't seem to.... n/t PavePusher Feb 2012 #49
So, it's 'states rights' then? AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #73
You're welcome DonP Feb 2012 #9
Right..... fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #10
You're gonna whine and bitch about living in DC and not having voting rights in every thread? rl6214 Feb 2012 #72
PS.... fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #11
however gejohnston Feb 2012 #13
Gainfully Employed? fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #15
*Again* with the genetic fallacy. Anyway, it doesn't matter-rights are rights. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #19
Who Said Anyone fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #24
I don't play that game gejohnston Feb 2012 #21
Oh Good Grief fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #26
Apparently Mr. Heller wasn't supposed to assume the Constitution applies everywhere. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #16
You Seem to Think It Matters fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #20
DC has good cause for complaint. That doesn't legitimize its stance on guns. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #29
Exemption? fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #30
In your view, are there any *other* SC decisions that shouldn't apply to DC? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #33
Shouldn't Apply? fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #34
Amendment process. Use it. PavePusher Feb 2012 #38
We Consent? fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #39
Please elucidate on this "property right" you'd have to "give up". PavePusher Feb 2012 #48
Sell My Home fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #55
Who said "sell"? Rent it out. Also, as I stated before: "Amendment Process". PavePusher Feb 2012 #58
Right fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #59
If DC had recognized his rights to begin with, you'd have no legal costs to complain about. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #14
LOL fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #17
start a petition gejohnston Feb 2012 #23
Get a History Lesson fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #28
DC's legit beef about lack of representation isn't a "Get Out Of Recognizing Constitutional Rights.. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #25
Not Even Close fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #27
Virginians apparently didn't want interracial marriages in 'their' state. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #31
Virginia fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #32
The Legitmacy of Federal Supremacy fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #35
I take it you haven't studied U.S Government tortoise1956 Feb 2012 #36
Good Grief fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #41
It seems as though that move somewhere else is an answer burf Feb 2012 #60
I'd be freaking amazed tortoise1956 Feb 2012 #61
Wasn't that one of Fenty's arguments? one-eyed fat man Feb 2012 #63
I would solve the problem by reducing the size of the District MicaelS Feb 2012 #67
There is a second FFL in DC one-eyed fat man Feb 2012 #42
You have got to be kidding me! burf Feb 2012 #44
Don't Ask Me fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #46
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh gejohnston Feb 2012 #47
Who Cares fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #54
His license status is public record one-eyed fat man Feb 2012 #50
Could It Be fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #52
Could care less? So, you care then? AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #74
If you supported your elected officials one-eyed fat man Feb 2012 #43
Nice fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #45
"Yes it was worth every penny." To loose? PavePusher Feb 2012 #51
We Lost? fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #53
So who are these "masters" who have told you that burf Feb 2012 #56
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #57
Dear fightthegodfightnow, tortoise1956 Feb 2012 #62
"not one single gun dealer is independently operating a gun store on private property in DC." HALO141 Feb 2012 #70
That's it, let's break cities financially who don't want guns in public. Hoyt Feb 2012 #64
BS Suits? NaturalHigh Feb 2012 #65
Because some yahoo filed a law suit that got the 5 right wing Justices to vote the NRA way. Hoyt Feb 2012 #66
And who so provocatively attracted that law suit? SteveW Feb 2012 #68
You didn't read the dissenting justices opinions did you? AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #75
Stevens and the other three who agreed with his dissent didn't buy into the NRA's view. Hoyt Feb 2012 #76
Didn't they? AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #77
I am fine with that. Keep them in your homes - although with some restrictions on numbers and type. Hoyt Feb 2012 #78
The 2nd doesn't appear to allow for that, and the dissent leaned heavily upon Miller. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #79
IIRC, gejohnston Feb 2012 #80
That is correct, the entire Miller case defendant side was unrepresented DonP Feb 2012 #81
Miller was a no show, too. He was dead. MicaelS Feb 2012 #82
The "procedural irregularities" one-eyed fat man Feb 2012 #84
Why? oneshooter Feb 2012 #83
Funny how the tune changes with the shoe on the other foot, huh? DonP Feb 2012 #71
OK, where do I sign up? n/t HALO141 Feb 2012 #69
You miss the whole point, don't you? one-eyed fat man Feb 2012 #85
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