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Response to tortoise1956 (Reply #36)

Sat Feb 25, 2012, 08:30 AM

41. Good Grief

Your first fact is true.

Would it surpise you to know that DC citizens have voting respresenation in the House three times that lasted on and off for over 80 years?

Where does it say in the Constitution DC citizens are to pay federal taxes but citizens in US territories (like Guam or US Virgin Islands) don't?

Where does it say in your constitution I have to sell my property to get representation in your government?

You could be a poster child for King George.......if you don't like the colonies....move........

And yes, I'm well aware of what constitutional amendment gave DC electoral presidential college votes (hint---it happened when the President at the time was drafting us to a war we were dying in and paying taxes for).

The constitutional convention I was refering to was for our STATEHOOD.

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85 replies	Author	Time	Post
Both sides file appeals over fee award in DC gun case [View all]	burf	Feb 2012	OP
What a crock! They lost they should pay!	one-eyed fat man	Feb 2012	#1
My personal favorite ... too much for the taxpayers!	DonP	Feb 2012	#2
My DC Vote is Pay Them	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#12
I don't picture	gejohnston	Feb 2012	#18
They Did Both	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#22
What Are You Talking About	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#3
They are also paying for	gejohnston	Feb 2012	#4
What am I talking about?	burf	Feb 2012	#5
Hypocrisy?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#6
That pesky Constitution thingie does get in the way sometimes, doesn't it? n/t	burf	Feb 2012	#7
Pesky?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#8
I guess that means a state could start ignoring the Thirteenth Amendment if they wanted to, yes? n/t	PavePusher	Feb 2012	#37
It's All Toilet Paper	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#40
I sure do. But you don't seem to.... n/t	PavePusher	Feb 2012	#49
So, it's 'states rights' then?	AtheistCrusader	Feb 2012	#73
You're welcome	DonP	Feb 2012	#9
Right.....	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#10
You're gonna whine and bitch about living in DC and not having voting rights in every thread?	rl6214	Feb 2012	#72
PS....	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#11
however	gejohnston	Feb 2012	#13
Gainfully Employed?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#15
Again with the genetic fallacy. Anyway, it doesn't matter-rights are rights.	friendly_iconoclast	Feb 2012	#19
Who Said Anyone	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#24
I don't play that game	gejohnston	Feb 2012	#21
Oh Good Grief	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#26
Apparently Mr. Heller wasn't supposed to assume the Constitution applies everywhere.	friendly_iconoclast	Feb 2012	#16
You Seem to Think It Matters	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#20
DC has good cause for complaint. That doesn't legitimize its stance on guns.	friendly_iconoclast	Feb 2012	#29
Exemption?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#30
In your view, are there any other SC decisions that shouldn't apply to DC?	friendly_iconoclast	Feb 2012	#33
Shouldn't Apply?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#34
Amendment process. Use it.	PavePusher	Feb 2012	#38
We Consent?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#39
Please elucidate on this "property right" you'd have to "give up".	PavePusher	Feb 2012	#48
Sell My Home	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#55
Who said "sell"? Rent it out. Also, as I stated before: "Amendment Process".	PavePusher	Feb 2012	#58
Right	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#59
If DC had recognized his rights to begin with, you'd have no legal costs to complain about.	friendly_iconoclast	Feb 2012	#14
LOL	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#17
start a petition	gejohnston	Feb 2012	#23
Get a History Lesson	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#28
DC's legit beef about lack of representation isn't a "Get Out Of Recognizing Constitutional Rights..	friendly_iconoclast	Feb 2012	#25
Not Even Close	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#27
Virginians apparently didn't want interracial marriages in 'their' state.	friendly_iconoclast	Feb 2012	#31
Virginia	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#32
The Legitmacy of Federal Supremacy	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#35
I take it you haven't studied U.S Government	tortoise1956	Feb 2012	#36
Good Grief	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#41
It seems as though that move somewhere else is an answer	burf	Feb 2012	#60
I'd be freaking amazed	tortoise1956	Feb 2012	#61
Wasn't that one of Fenty's arguments?	one-eyed fat man	Feb 2012	#63
I would solve the problem by reducing the size of the District	MicaelS	Feb 2012	#67
There is a second FFL in DC	one-eyed fat man	Feb 2012	#42
You have got to be kidding me!	burf	Feb 2012	#44
Don't Ask Me	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#46
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh	gejohnston	Feb 2012	#47
Who Cares	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#54
His license status is public record	one-eyed fat man	Feb 2012	#50
Could It Be	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#52
Could care less? So, you care then?	AtheistCrusader	Feb 2012	#74
If you supported your elected officials	one-eyed fat man	Feb 2012	#43
Nice	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#45
"Yes it was worth every penny." To loose?	PavePusher	Feb 2012	#51
We Lost?	fightthegoodfightnow	Feb 2012	#53
So who are these "masters" who have told you that	burf	Feb 2012	#56
Post removed	Post removed	Feb 2012	#57
Dear fightthegodfightnow,	tortoise1956	Feb 2012	#62
"not one single gun dealer is independently operating a gun store on private property in DC."	HALO141	Feb 2012	#70
That's it, let's break cities financially who don't want guns in public.	Hoyt	Feb 2012	#64
BS Suits?	NaturalHigh	Feb 2012	#65
Because some yahoo filed a law suit that got the 5 right wing Justices to vote the NRA way.	Hoyt	Feb 2012	#66
And who so provocatively attracted that law suit?	SteveW	Feb 2012	#68
You didn't read the dissenting justices opinions did you?	AtheistCrusader	Feb 2012	#75
Stevens and the other three who agreed with his dissent didn't buy into the NRA's view.	Hoyt	Feb 2012	#76
Didn't they?	AtheistCrusader	Feb 2012	#77
I am fine with that. Keep them in your homes - although with some restrictions on numbers and type.	Hoyt	Feb 2012	#78
The 2nd doesn't appear to allow for that, and the dissent leaned heavily upon Miller.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 2012	#79
IIRC,	gejohnston	Feb 2012	#80
That is correct, the entire Miller case defendant side was unrepresented	DonP	Feb 2012	#81
Miller was a no show, too. He was dead.	MicaelS	Feb 2012	#82
The "procedural irregularities"	one-eyed fat man	Feb 2012	#84
Why?	oneshooter	Feb 2012	#83
Funny how the tune changes with the shoe on the other foot, huh?	DonP	Feb 2012	#71
OK, where do I sign up? n/t	HALO141	Feb 2012	#69
You miss the whole point, don't you?	one-eyed fat man	Feb 2012	#85

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