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jimmy the one

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10. branford's bogus chart alert
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:24 PM
Aug 2015

(since Branford ducked my concern on another thread): http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=173983

.... re (Branford's) gun violence chart - I didn't realize pro gun Vermont, new Hampshire & maine had such high incidence of gun violence. Pls explain Branford, since this appears to be some sort of manipulated chart to coincide with liberal voting areas. Pro gun Tennessee has the highest violent crime rate in the country, yet is rated 'low incidents of gun violence' on your chart, absurd. I can only suspect the chart author might use gun violence rate & gun violence occurrence interchangeably, whichever puts the liberal area in the worse light.

Please explain Branford, where your two side by side charts come from, this pbs:twimg (from properties), and tell me if the left chart measures total gun violence incidents, or by rate? (as I said above, I suspect he blends them in deceptively) Total index of gun violence will logically be highest in cities with larger populations, rather than rural areas with smaller populations. The chart does not specify whether by rate or index. If index the chart is misleading, if by rate explain vt, NH, & maine.
Does southern texas & the grand canyon area really have higher gun violence than Detroit and new orleans? do you have 'reservations' about what you're posting now?
And what are the links you posted supposed to prove? they seem to have little to do to back up what you say, & are only there as supportive of violent crime data, yet you proudly strut as if they were supporting your premises: Courtesy of the DOJ (BJS and NIJ) and Pew Research

Highest Crime Per Capita (Disregard #1 DC for comparison, DC is a city not a state & only included to be all inclusive of violent crime nationally)
Note the top 6 are PRO GUN states, only Md is gun control, Delaware neutralish.
2.Tennessee: 643.6 .. 3.Nevada: 607.6 ... 4.Alaska: 603.2
5.New Mexico: 559.1 ... 6.South Carolina: 558.8 ... 7.Delaware: 547.4
8.Louisiana: 496.9 ... 9.Florida: 487.1 .... 10.Maryland: 476.8

http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2013/09/10-states-with-the-highest-rates-of-violent-crime.html

After accounting for differences in states’ socio-demographic characteristics and economic condition the band leader Aug 2015 #1
Look at the gun death rates by city and county, rather than statewide, branford Aug 2015 #2
Some very informative links TeddyR Aug 2015 #3
Also, check-out this chart comparing gun violence rates to district voting patterns in 2012. branford Aug 2015 #5
branford's bogus chart alert jimmy the one Aug 2015 #10
Speaking of bogus... beevul Aug 2015 #14
Inconvenient truths that can't be obscured via bafflegab are simply ignored friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #17
Per *your own source*, 9 of the 10 lowest crime states are pro gun: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #15
violent crime rates fell dramatically during AWB years jimmy the one Aug 2015 #12
Why doesn't the # of guns in the US correlate with violent crime rates? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #16
...the AWB years, when AR-15 and AK ownership TRIPLED. benEzra Aug 2015 #18
leaving out a lot jimmy the one Aug 2015 #20
Ignorance of Firearms Law, Exhibit A. benEzra Aug 2015 #22
Its a way of muddying the waters. beevul Aug 2015 #6
I note the 80 megaton air burst over Chicago. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #7
After "accounting for socio-demographic characteristics and economic conditions," branford Aug 2015 #8
Basically TeddyR Aug 2015 #9
big discrepancy in charts jimmy the one Aug 2015 #11
I'm so glad you asked. Adressed elsewhere in this thread momentarily. N/T beevul Aug 2015 #13
beevul's blunder, misleading us jimmy the one Aug 2015 #19
Theres no misleading on my part. beevul Aug 2015 #21
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #23
comparing a state with less than 800,000 people to a state with over 38 million people the band leader Aug 2015 #24
"Now what do you have to say, hotshot?" beevul Aug 2015 #26
Jury results beevul Aug 2015 #27
Sad, just sad discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2015 #28
Well...this part is. beevul Aug 2015 #29
Gun laws and non-fatal injuries = Controllers are constantly shooting themselves in the foot. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #4
Repeat of poorly couched/described studies. Nt Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #25
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