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Response to the band leader (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:53 AM

2. Look at the gun death rates by city and county, rather than statewide,

 

and the results are far more disturbing, and unfortunately raise very uncomfortable issues about race, class, urbanization, Democratic governance strategies, legislative priorities and approaches to crime, etc. I don't really know how one can truly and comprehensively adjust "for differences in statesí socio-demographic characteristics and economic conditions," but it seems that is little more than a disclaimer to handwave away inconvenient facts and data that don't support the author's views on guns. The article is an editorial masquerading as objective journalism.

http://www.citylab.com/politics/2013/01/gun-violence-us-cities-compared-deadliest-nations-world/4412/

[**A Google search readily reveals a politically devastating map comparing gun violence rates to district voting patterns in 2012. Since the map was unsurprisingly distributed on conservative new sources and Facebook, I have not included the links in this post. However, it does not change the reality that blue, largely urban and minority districts, largely urban suffer gun violence at much higher rates.]

The author similarly mentions the CDC study, but then fails to discuss it because it again doesn't support her viewpoint. She also chooses not to note that gun deaths, and all violent crime, are consistently falling all while the number of guns is steadily increasing, ownership and carry laws pervasively liberalizing (along with the expiration of the Clinton-era "assault weapons" ban), and the Obama DOJ's own research indicating that most current gun control strategies are ineffective.

Courtesy of the DOJ (BJS and NIJ) and Pew Research:

http://bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fv9311.pdf

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/

https://docs.google.com/file/d/1-kispbj31jpD1LvnFSDevryH2RmVvoLw1slOBZTe-suuy96Qq69nF9BhTmcw/edit

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