Gun Control & RKBA

Politicalboi

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40. He sees a gun and he "feels" threatened

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:11 AM

Apr 2015

I thought they couldn't really define threatened, so even if you "feel" it you can defend yourself.

And I'm not a dude, but you can call me one. LOL!

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Shopper guilty in tackling of man with gun at Walmart [View all] GGJohn Apr 2015 OP

The good old west Politicalboi Apr 2015 #1

You're actually blaming WalMart for this asshole's actions? GGJohn Apr 2015 #2

So you're telling me that WalMart Politicalboi Apr 2015 #4

No, that's not what I'm telling you. GGJohn Apr 2015 #6

WalMart doesn't need to follow that policy Politicalboi Apr 2015 #10

Mr. Foster has every thing to lose, GGJohn Apr 2015 #13

"We have rights too." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #125

Your sig line is so ridiculous. GGJohn Apr 2015 #126

Or basic common machine tools. N/T beevul Apr 2015 #127

Wait, it's easy to smuggle ammo into the country? tridim Apr 2015 #151

Were you under the impression that it's difficult to smuggle *anything* into this country? friendly_iconoclast Apr 2015 #157

No but I had no idea that it is currently "easy to smuggle ammo" into this country. WTF? tridim Apr 2015 #159

By all means, contact the Department of Homeland Security... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2015 #160

it is easy to smuggle cocaine and heroin in gejohnston Apr 2015 #161

Walmart innocent yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #9

And that's INSANE! Politicalboi Apr 2015 #18

Perhaps but until a Constitutional Amendment yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #21

Then you would have to move to a different country, GGJohn Apr 2015 #25

let's do a little comparison melm00se Apr 2015 #132

nope. gejohnston Apr 2015 #3

I do know there may have been racism in his attack Politicalboi Apr 2015 #5

WalMart doesn't allow these confrontations, all WalMart does is GGJohn Apr 2015 #7

It's their property Politicalboi Apr 2015 #12

That's the point I'm making, GGJohn Apr 2015 #14

Even though it's their own property? Politicalboi Apr 2015 #19

Who are you to say it's not life or death? GGJohn Apr 2015 #29

blaming the victim? gejohnston Apr 2015 #15

Foster is a racist. gejohnston Apr 2015 #11

LOL! Politicalboi Apr 2015 #16

Then you quite obviously know NOTHING about those of us that choose GGJohn Apr 2015 #17

Us non carriers have rights too Politicalboi Apr 2015 #22

you realize of course, gejohnston Apr 2015 #26

I'm not defending cops Politicalboi Apr 2015 #33

federal law prohibits abusers from possessing gejohnston Apr 2015 #35

Us heterosexuals have rights too. pablo_marmol May 2015 #166

I know that you advocate murder. stone space Apr 2015 #91

Lying about what I said again? GGJohn Apr 2015 #93

There's nothing justifiable about murder. stone space Apr 2015 #96

And self-defense is not murder. (nt) blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #98

And doubling down on the lies. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #99

Wow. Not just a lie.....but a *filthy* lie. pablo_marmol May 2015 #167

Do you ever tire of being wrong? blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #94

that isn't murder gejohnston Apr 2015 #95

Really? gejohnston Apr 2015 #24

then why is most gun violence drug related? Politicalboi Apr 2015 #36

you really don't know anything gejohnston Apr 2015 #38

I've read stories of that happening and you'll never guess where Politicalboi Apr 2015 #44

do you understand that dog bites man isn't news, gejohnston Apr 2015 #47

Isn't it amazing sarisataka Apr 2015 #27

yes indeed, we can. gejohnston Apr 2015 #28

Some DUers don't realize how they contribute to racial tension. Liberal, indeed. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #109

What? More likely the gun owner who was legal yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #8

Interesting theory... sarisataka Apr 2015 #20

Then maybe they need to amend the law Politicalboi Apr 2015 #23

I don't follow you sarisataka Apr 2015 #32

I can't smoke my cigarette in WalMart Politicalboi Apr 2015 #39

You can't smoke in Wal-Mart sarisataka Apr 2015 #43

It's not like that though Politicalboi Apr 2015 #45

still no gejohnston Apr 2015 #51

"I just don't see where it's too much to ask for." beevul Apr 2015 #114

And doesn't Florida have that Stand Your Ground Law? Politicalboi Apr 2015 #30

Dude, you really need to learn about the SYG laws. GGJohn Apr 2015 #31

He sees a gun and he "feels" threatened Politicalboi Apr 2015 #40

do you know what the reasonable person standard is? gejohnston Apr 2015 #41

The thing I got about SYG was it Politicalboi Apr 2015 #46

the first was probably California gejohnston Apr 2015 #49

most states have stand your ground, 33 gejohnston Apr 2015 #34

"How do you judge something you don't know anything about?" pablo_marmol Apr 2015 #42

and even if it wasn't a SYG state, gejohnston Apr 2015 #37

I guess I just bit off more than I can chew Politicalboi Apr 2015 #48

here is a hint gejohnston Apr 2015 #50

That's what I'm asking for when I make trips to the local store. ileus Apr 2015 #57

Link to the DU thread of the Jan 20 event ManiacJoe Apr 2015 #52

WTF? Tackling that guy was the perfectly logical thing to do. Seriously not kidding. DetlefK Apr 2015 #53

Interestingly enough Shamash Apr 2015 #54

Your logic is flawless and I agree: "Stop&Frisk" is a great idea. Here's another one: DetlefK Apr 2015 #56

So... Shamash Apr 2015 #58

Nice. DetlefK Apr 2015 #62

Try this Shamash Apr 2015 #70

How to tell the difference: Is someone threatening you? All clear? nt Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #107

Re: 2011 US homicide rate discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2015 #111

Foster is convicted of a crime and faces jail time blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #59

Legal, moral and logical are not the same. DetlefK Apr 2015 #60

How did Daniels look like a "bad guy with a gun"? blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #61

Most excellent question. DetlefK Apr 2015 #63

The bad guy with a gun blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #64

That's like saying a good stock will rise, a bad stock will fall. DetlefK Apr 2015 #65

How do we tell a legitimate shopper blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #68

Of course it's possible Shamash Apr 2015 #71

So it would appear. (nt) blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #72

Agreed, we can't. But the consequences of our failures make the difference. DetlefK Apr 2015 #79

So, then you advocate tackling anyone blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #80

Let's say... DetlefK Apr 2015 #83

Keep calling on "suspicious" blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #84

Your freedom ends where my freedom begins. DetlefK Apr 2015 #85

It's not a zero sum game. blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #88

It does infringe. DetlefK Apr 2015 #89

How do you manage to get through life at all? blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #92

Oh, I worry about a lot. DetlefK Apr 2015 #100

"If 99.9% of gun-owners pose no threat to you" blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #102

If 99.9% of gun-owners pose no threat to you, why would you need a gun in the first place? Shamash Apr 2015 #103

Good grief. beevul Apr 2015 #116

Where do they get this; "I have a right to not be afraid" idea? Did I miss a SCOTUS decision? DonP Apr 2015 #119

re: "The freedom to never be worried about violent death" discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2015 #120

"I wonder if he moved to Germany from Italy?" friendly_iconoclast Apr 2015 #122

"Baldr Odinson" strikes again? DonP Apr 2015 #123

All that pompous self-importance would play well there... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2015 #124

Last post here. DetlefK Apr 2015 #128

Sorry, but that's BS. GGJohn Apr 2015 #129

"That's BS." Excellent refute. DetlefK Apr 2015 #130

That's all the refuting needed. GGJohn Apr 2015 #131

Insisting that something makes sense does not mean that it makes sense. DetlefK Apr 2015 #133

All those scenario's you've laid out? GGJohn Apr 2015 #134

Are you familiar with the concepts of "logic" and "rationality"? DetlefK Apr 2015 #139

I'll ask you again. GGJohn Apr 2015 #140

I am seriously doubting your mental capacity right now. (Not kidding.) DetlefK Apr 2015 #141

All of which hasn't happened has it? GGJohn Apr 2015 #142

You, Sir, are a pigeon. DetlefK Apr 2015 #143

You, Sir, are a moron Shamash Apr 2015 #149

300 years? DetlefK May 2015 #163

Your scenario is not logic sarisataka Apr 2015 #145

So... Which one of my steps was wrong? DetlefK May 2015 #164

Your steps presume that the level of violence would increase along with the # of weapons friendly_iconoclast May 2015 #165

Would you be offended sarisataka May 2015 #168

My family has sarisataka Apr 2015 #90

It certainly appears so. blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #97

Would you like to know, before people speak, whether they'll incite a riot too? beevul Apr 2015 #115

I got it! I got it! He was black! uh, I mean, I hear that all the time here in DU... Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #110

re: "looked like a bad guy..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2015 #86

He looked like a "black guy with a gun" - there, fixed it for you. nt hack89 Apr 2015 #73

He looked like a bad guy with a gun because he was a black man tularetom Apr 2015 #106

WTF? Tackling that guy was the perfectly logical thing to do. Seriously not kidding. GGJohn Apr 2015 #66

Legal isn't the same as logical, otherwise Wall Street banksters would be in jail. DetlefK Apr 2015 #67

How logical is it to tackle someone minding their own business? GGJohn Apr 2015 #69

Again... DetlefK Apr 2015 #76

Foster could have been legally shot in self defense. blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #77

I would choose minding my own damn business if there is no threat. GGJohn Apr 2015 #78

And the gun owners are supposed to be the vigilantes? DonP Apr 2015 #87

HA! Vigilantism: It's not just for gun-owners. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #112

"There is no way to tell a bad guy with a gun from a good guy with a gun before the violence..." beevul Apr 2015 #121

Attacking people for doing perfectly legal things may be logical to you hack89 Apr 2015 #74

I think you replied to the wrong person. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #75

You are right - my coffee powered sarcasm detector is low on fuel. nt hack89 Apr 2015 #81

No problem. GGJohn Apr 2015 #82

"do battle with our cattle." oneshooter Apr 2015 #117

Charge the with a "Mooooving" violation? blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #118

Politicalboi is clueless Shamash Apr 2015 #55

How many more Walmart customers must die before Walmart does something? stone space Apr 2015 #144

But this is not about someone's death sarisataka Apr 2015 #146

How many Wal Mart customers died in this incident? blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #147

Clarence Daniels didn't follow the OP's advice. stone space Apr 2015 #150

More lies. blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #155

I'm glad he has been convicted for the assault. bravenak Apr 2015 #101

^^^ +100 ^^^ discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2015 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #104

White guy convicted of attacking Islamist -- Defended on DU. lord. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #108

This is the appropriate outcome Gothmog Apr 2015 #113

Regarding your alert of April 29th, 2015 stone space Apr 2015 #135

Yeah? So what? GGJohn Apr 2015 #136

Good call. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #137

Michael Foster gets the Jughead Award for this one. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #138

That some here on DU want him dead? stone space Apr 2015 #148

Nobody wants him dead. Get a grip. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #152

Making excuses for murdering him. stone space Apr 2015 #153

OK dude, have it your way. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #154

"Yeah, I'd say that some here want him dead." Name one, then friendly_iconoclast Apr 2015 #158

Now I know for a fact that you're no teacher, GGJohn Apr 2015 #162

The pro-GC position? sarisataka Apr 2015 #156