Concealed carry predictions way off target (No blood in the streets)

[jimmy the one]

13. unrealistic & ridiculous

straw man: Yet the murder rate was actually lower in 2013 than it was in 1964 (your chosen comparison years).

You need to read thoroughly before you post a reply. Is the year 1993 invisible to you? Abracadabra:

...... pop .......... total crime...... viol ... property ... murder
1964 .. 191,141,000 .. 2,388.1 .. 190.6 .. 2,197.5 .. 4.9
1993 ..257,908,000 .. 5,484.4 .. 746.8 .. 4,737.7 .. 9.5
2013 .. 316,128,839 .. 3,098.6 .. 367.9 .. 2,730.7 .. 4.5

what I'd written: violent crime increased & murder increased (now simply down to parity with 60's)

What I wrote was true. You lie with statistics, ignoring intervening years & making a typical maths error in spreading your disinformation, thinking the big upward murder rate bulge signified nothing.
If you were to average all the years between 1964 & 2013 you'd get more than 5 murder rate, maybe 6 to 7 I'd guess. That is more indicative of the murder rates for those years, not 4.9 & 4.5, which are misleading.
You get on a roller coaster ride at the start, get off before it leaves, get back on when it completes its trip & say 'what's the big deal? its in the same place'.

straw man: So.. more guns = more violent crime but less murder? Correlation ain't causation, Jimmy.

Murder is but a small percentage of violent crime, a couple percent.
Correlation is correlation, it can either support causation or be coincidence. The axiom is meant to prevent unrealistic & ridiculous links based simply on correlation. But a link between guns & crime rates, is not unrealistic, nor ridiculous.