Gun Control & RKBA

hack89

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26. Extreme gun violence in America is very geographically localized

Thu Jun 26, 2014, 09:58 PM

Jun 2014

For most Americans, where they live is just as safe as any European country - even though they are surrounded by guns. That tells me the root causes are very specific to certain demographics. Extreme poverty immediately comes to mind. Let's fix root causes.

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One map that puts America's gun violence epidemic in perspective [View all] SecularMotion Jun 2014 OP

Yawn. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #1

So you're saying Canada, for instance, thucythucy Jun 2014 #2

has nothing to do with number of guns per capita gejohnston Jun 2014 #5

"Isn't that the attitude of your average bong owner?" thucythucy Jun 2014 #14

just many things gejohnston Jun 2014 #18

Treating non-gun murders as less important is callous and unfeeling friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #7

Judging them by their actions ... beevul Jun 2014 #12

Straw man, much? thucythucy Jun 2014 #15

I'm sure *some* do care- but most downplay non-gun deaths friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #21

Your points are well taken, however in this particular instance.... NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #17

Honduras has a murder rate 22 times that of America? I would seriously want to take my children Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #3

So a map sarisataka Jun 2014 #4

Meh, just another repeat of the "guns kill you deader" meme... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #8

One third of all murders take place in Central and South America hack89 Jun 2014 #6

Because... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #9

Perhaps only the bad guys have guns? Hangingon Jun 2014 #10

How is that possible? You really have to ask? thucythucy Jun 2014 #16

In America we have cut our murder and manslaughter rate in half over the past 20 years hack89 Jun 2014 #19

We are not supposed to notice that poverty and corruption correlate... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #22

We have a horrible murder rate compared to countries like us. No one can deny it. n-t Logical Jun 2014 #23

Yet the point of the OP is that high gun ownership rates cause high murder rates hack89 Jun 2014 #24

I am fine with guns. But I have no doubt that if there were no guns the USA murder rate would...... Logical Jun 2014 #25

Extreme gun violence in America is very geographically localized hack89 Jun 2014 #26

caused by guns gejohnston Jun 2014 #27

Guns are designed to kill things. Stop the silly comparisons. I will take my chance..... Logical Jun 2014 #28

Not at all a silly comparison gejohnston Jun 2014 #29

Guns make it easy to kill people. LOL, why do cops/military carry guns? Get it yet? n-t Logical Jun 2014 #30

it also equalizes gejohnston Jun 2014 #31

You really think if there were NO guns that they would all be replaced with other weapons? n-t Logical Jun 2014 #32

Do you have a valid argument gejohnston Jun 2014 #33

You are being too logical, Logical Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #36

logic implies the use of gejohnston Jun 2014 #37

All of what evidence? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #41

Europe was certainly more violent gejohnston Jun 2014 #42

And this had what exactly to do with firearms? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #55

I didn't say it did gejohnston Jun 2014 #57

Your problems are many. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #58

"Your problems are many." Jenoch Jun 2014 #59

No Jenoch. It means your problems are many Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #61

Thank you. Jenoch Jun 2014 #63

I'm sure the rest of the world shares your xenophobic view Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #65

You really have no clue. Jenoch Jun 2014 #67

Right, just that my opinion is worthless. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #68

If you have no stake in the game, why should it matter what you think about the game? Jenoch Jul 2014 #69

Do you think having family there gives me a "stake in the game"? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #70

One problem with several causes gejohnston Jun 2014 #60

I give up GE Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #62

Evidence. Straw Man Jun 2014 #54

Faulty causality. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #56

I never mentioned causes. Straw Man Jun 2014 #66

YOU "have no doubt" that the U.S. murder rate would drop? pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #35

LOL, so under your logic we should give guns to robbers to reduce injury's? Classic! n-t Logical Jun 2014 #38

There you go......with another childish strawman. It's your only ammo. pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #39

No, based on what you said would that not prevent injury's??? You said it Einstein, not me....... Logical Jun 2014 #40

"Why do people carry guns for defense if they are not more lethal?" pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #43

You still have not explained why we don't arm robbers with guns to prevent injury's! Please.... Logical Jun 2014 #44

Because I don't need to back up a theory I never put forward, Einstein! pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #45

So you have no proof of this claim except something you read who knows where? LOL..... Logical Jun 2014 #46

"I get it. You got nothing." pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #47

LOL, you said it was a book! So you didn't even look before? Just BSing me? n-t Logical Jun 2014 #48

Unbelievable! pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #49

I understand your low post count. Asssume you were kicked off before. n-t Logical Jun 2014 #50

Again -- your desperation is showing. pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #51

Ahhh......Ok Einstein! LOL! Sorry if feeling hurt! n-t Logical Jun 2014 #52

And sorry I destroyed all of your lame "arguments". pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #64

Again... krispos42 Jun 2014 #11

Your subject line doesn't match the map. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #13

*snicker* krispos42 Jun 2014 #34

I sure hope to add two firearms to my collection before the year is out. ileus Jun 2014 #20

just added one Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #53