Gun Control & RKBA

hack89

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68. Groups that lie or distort will not (and should not) have much influence

Reply to mwrguy (Reply #67)

Thu Jun 19, 2014, 07:06 PM

Jun 2014

Lying for a good cause is still lying.

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A closer look: How many school shootings since Newtown? [View all] hack89 Jun 2014 OP

Wow! You'd almost think somebody (Bloomberg) is trying to "sell fear"? N/T DonP Jun 2014 #1

It's not just Bloomberg. From another DU group, story about using the PTA to leverage lies: NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #61

The second comment has been on my mind lately DonP Jun 2014 #62

Wow! 15 out of 74, you'd think someone is trying to minimize the slaughter! nt flamin lib Jun 2014 #2

+1 villager Jun 2014 #3

all public policy should be based on gejohnston Jun 2014 #8

Well we know that cold, dead steel has long informed your posts here. villager Jun 2014 #12

no, one side is trying to create numbers gejohnston Jun 2014 #10

stop creating numbers, johnston advises, HA! jimmy the one Jun 2014 #31

sorry, you disproved nothing gejohnston Jun 2014 #33

tired of this tapdance jimmy the one Jun 2014 #35

if you are tired of tap dancing, gejohnston Jun 2014 #36

utter nonsense jimmy the one Jun 2014 #37

clap trap? gejohnston Jun 2014 #39

J's hat trick jimmy the one Jun 2014 #54

can't dispute the scholarship, attack the person. gejohnston Jun 2014 #55

more guns more lies jimmy the one Jun 2014 #56

you lose another round. gejohnston Jun 2014 #57

GE, I'd like to point out... beevul Jun 2014 #60

please learn how to read jimmy the one Jun 2014 #58

Your sig were not Burger's words gejohnston Jun 2014 #59

I wonder when blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #4

What am I missing here? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #6

Only 1 in 5 (15 of 74) blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #17

OK, so that makes it 15 Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #18

Why the need to lie about the numbers? hack89 Jun 2014 #22

Nothing above Zero is "acceptable". blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #23

OK, valid point. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #27

the difference is gejohnston Jun 2014 #32

Kobiyashi Maru. If the rules don't fit your goal, change them. flamin lib Jun 2014 #26

Is the Oregon shooting "mass shooting?" Saw it described that way Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #47

Woudn't seem to fit the description of a "mass shooting". blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #48

Very sad. Do you have a comment? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #5

I think Bloomberg is an authoritarian sack of shit hack89 Jun 2014 #7

LaPierre is sooooooooo much more honorable!!!1!11! nt flamin lib Jun 2014 #9

If you want support Republican billionaires, knock yourself out. hack89 Jun 2014 #11

Oh, and Larry Pratt too!1!1!1!!!! flamin lib Jun 2014 #13

Larry Pratt is an asshole - just like Bloomberg nt. hack89 Jun 2014 #15

I'm sure you never shop at Walmart Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #21

There would be no "public safety" movement without Bloomberg and his money. hack89 Jun 2014 #24

I have no interest in Bloomberg, his politics or his wealth. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #25

Yet supporting gun rights = supporting Wayne LaPierre? hack89 Jun 2014 #28

I have no idea what you mean. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #29

Don't be obtuse hack89 Jun 2014 #30

Yeah, well it's still a misnomer. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #38

Civil right is the proper term. I will start using it instead hack89 Jun 2014 #43

I consider self defense to be a basic human right. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #44

Please, don't be concerned with upsetting me. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #45

consider this gejohnston Jun 2014 #40

OK, point taken Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #41

funny you should mention him gejohnston Jun 2014 #42

I think he is kind of stupid gejohnston Jun 2014 #14

Don't forget Alex Jones!1!!!1! He speaks for YOU!1!!!1! nt flamin lib Jun 2014 #16

More exclamation points! blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #19

!!1!1!!1!1!1!!!!!1!1!1!!!1!1!1! flamin lib Jun 2014 #20

no lie, but a bit misleading I suppose jimmy the one Jun 2014 #34

Never let the truth get in the way of an regressive agenda ileus Jun 2014 #46

Redefining 'school shootings' so they don’t count Electric Monk Jun 2014 #50

It isn't redefining anything gejohnston Jun 2014 #51

Also, if the gun control lobby can't be honest about this, why should they be believed when it come blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #52

The lying has already begun in the mainstrean news Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #53

johnston asks me to disprove 'his' claim jimmy the one Jun 2014 #63

not really gejohnston Jun 2014 #66

guns & the holocaust jimmy the one Jun 2014 #71

I didn't say the 1938 law didn't loosen laws gejohnston Jun 2014 #72

the myth of nazi gun control jimmy the one Jun 2014 #73

I didn't say the guncite undercut your thesis. gejohnston Jun 2014 #74

fish mongering jimmy the one Jun 2014 #76

you picked a unsourced claim? gejohnston Jun 2014 #79

chicago, LA, NYC, DC, NOT LIBERAL CITIES?????? jimmy the one Jun 2014 #64

it uses voting patterns as the only definition gejohnston Jun 2014 #65

on liberal cities jimmy the one Jun 2014 #75

cheesy hoc ergo moony hoc jimmy the one Jun 2014 #77

national gds, state militia jimmy the one Jun 2014 #78

You created a new fallacy? gejohnston Jun 2014 #80

Professional gun restrictionists are liars. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #49

15 or 74 mwrguy Jun 2014 #67

Groups that lie or distort will not (and should not) have much influence hack89 Jun 2014 #68

Yet when one misrepresents such a basic fact to such a large degree blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #69

Do you hold the same standards with swimming pool deaths, or traffic deaths? oneshooter Jun 2014 #70