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In reply to the discussion: At least one American city has sensible gun laws [View all]jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)67. another false premise
what jimmy wrote: Detroit, Flint, & progun St Louis, Memphis, Little Rock, Birmingham AL, Atlanta, Cleveland, Kansas City, Nashville, all had higher violent crime rates than DC, which ranked 21.
Johnston replied: What about other cities in those states? That is cherry picking. Since we know that the violent crime rate was higher before any of them adopted shall issue, and we also know that CCW holders are statistically more law abiding than cops, your attempts to show that there is a cause fails
Duh, I was not trying to establish causation; duh, I was only factually listing those pro gun or shall issue cities with higher violent crime rates than wash DC, to counter arguments that DC guncontrol was ineffective - if it was ineffective, then those progun shall issue cities done did worse.
You again reply with tapdancing & creating your own false premise as if it was what I had written.
As well, I'm thinking again that you cannot comprehend, less yet argue successfully, from a valid platform. In part because you're too duplicitously pro gun.
Johnston replied: What about other cities in those states? That is cherry picking. Since we know that the violent crime rate was higher before any of them adopted shall issue, and we also know that CCW holders are statistically more law abiding than cops, your attempts to show that there is a cause fails
Duh, I was not trying to establish causation; duh, I was only factually listing those pro gun or shall issue cities with higher violent crime rates than wash DC, to counter arguments that DC guncontrol was ineffective - if it was ineffective, then those progun shall issue cities done did worse.
You again reply with tapdancing & creating your own false premise as if it was what I had written.
As well, I'm thinking again that you cannot comprehend, less yet argue successfully, from a valid platform. In part because you're too duplicitously pro gun.
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If they are below the poverty line and buy guns, they are intellectually poor.
Starboard Tack
May 2014
#64
Actually some groups are giving guns to poor people in crime ridden neighborhoods. ...
spin
May 2014
#27
" DC public safety director said it is better to be hospitalized than to defend yourself"
Starboard Tack
May 2014
#19
He/She/It has said that he/she/it doesn't want to have a conversation with"gun nuts". n/t
oneshooter
May 2014
#44
He does the same thing in Religion, along with a few other anti-theists.
Starboard Tack
May 2014
#55