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Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
46. And the intentional homicide rates?
Fri May 23, 2014, 11:03 AM
May 2014

Hard to fudge these stats.
4.8 per 100,000 in the US
1.2 per 100,000 in the UK

But if you advise people to have a shoot out with 3 armed meth heads, over a cellphone and some plastic, then those stats are unlikely to improve on your side of the pond.
Violence may be bad, but rarely leads to death.
If less crime is more important to a society than fewer homicides, then you're in the right place.
It's a sad indictment of a society, when folks kill each other over the crap they buy at Walmart.

You can troll the web for old news articles (2008) about politicians fudging stats in an attempt to appease public outrage over knife crime. If that's all you've got to bolster your recommendation to let folk carry guns, then your coming up mighty short.
And the other link is a joke.

So you are fine with the excessive fees it costs to get a gun? Travis_0004 May 2014 #1
Let's be realistic here. Starboard Tack May 2014 #6
Poor people are more often the victims of violent crime. HALO141 May 2014 #9
You are probably right Starboard Tack May 2014 #11
Why do you think only rich people are buying guns? hack89 May 2014 #12
I don't. Rich is a relative term Starboard Tack May 2014 #18
They can cost as much(or as little) as a TV hack89 May 2014 #20
I guess it's all about priorities. Starboard Tack May 2014 #58
So most Americans below the poverty line are not really poor? hack89 May 2014 #60
If they are below the poverty line and buy guns, they are intellectually poor. Starboard Tack May 2014 #64
Those goal posts getting heavy? nt hack89 May 2014 #65
Your idea of rich is somewhat outside the norm Packerowner740 May 2014 #56
That may well be so Starboard Tack May 2014 #59
scared rich people buying guns? gejohnston May 2014 #15
Actually some groups are giving guns to poor people in crime ridden neighborhoods. ... spin May 2014 #27
Very interesting. Starboard Tack May 2014 #34
Much will depend on the quality of the background checks run on the people ... spin May 2014 #35
Poor people are not interested in guns. yeoman6987 May 2014 #26
If you know what I mean, why rewrite it? Starboard Tack May 2014 #30
Well I wrote it because you said "ALL POOR PEOPLE" yeoman6987 May 2014 #31
No I didn't. I said "poor people..." I did not say "ALL" at all. Starboard Tack May 2014 #32
so "sensible" is defined by prohibition? gejohnston May 2014 #2
"Republican lawmakers who fear the gun lobby." Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #3
DC gun laws....making easy victims since....forever? ileus May 2014 #4
Assholes carrying guns shooting easy victims since...forever! Starboard Tack May 2014 #7
forced defenseless victims...now that's progressive. ileus May 2014 #13
"forced defenseless victims" Starboard Tack May 2014 #16
forced by the DC city govenment gejohnston May 2014 #17
" DC public safety director said it is better to be hospitalized than to defend yourself" Starboard Tack May 2014 #19
That is essentially what he said sarisataka May 2014 #22
It is part of what he said. Starboard Tack May 2014 #36
Actually, I do. gejohnston May 2014 #23
Sounds like his advice was good Starboard Tack May 2014 #37
That the public safety director follow his own advice gejohnston May 2014 #41
Do you have a link supporting the "armed bodyguards"? Starboard Tack May 2014 #42
Seriously? gejohnston May 2014 #43
depending on how you calculate violent crime, gejohnston May 2014 #45
And the intentional homicide rates? Starboard Tack May 2014 #46
not exactly gejohnston May 2014 #47
I give up. Sorry bud, but you lost me at Japan. Starboard Tack May 2014 #48
or how about the DC PSD gejohnston May 2014 #49
Not sure what your point is Starboard Tack May 2014 #50
or at least a means of defense gejohnston May 2014 #51
I agree a pepper spray is appropriate. Starboard Tack May 2014 #52
that is a sub text gejohnston May 2014 #53
Criminals shooting people you mean hack89 May 2014 #14
I agree. There are few legal gun owners in DC. (n/t) spin May 2014 #28
Why do you never respond to the comments made to your OP's? Starboard Tack May 2014 #5
He's okay enough discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2014 #8
I just wish he'd engage in the conversation a little. Starboard Tack May 2014 #10
I think he is Trolling in an attempt ... MicaelS May 2014 #38
I'm not so sure. Starboard Tack May 2014 #39
His normal response I have seen was either Packerowner740 May 2014 #57
Most everyone who replies to his OPs... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2014 #40
He/She/It has said that he/she/it doesn't want to have a conversation with"gun nuts". n/t oneshooter May 2014 #44
Because the point isn't to engender discussion. Lizzie Poppet May 2014 #54
He does the same thing in Religion, along with a few other anti-theists. Starboard Tack May 2014 #55
flaws in the progun arguments jimmy the one May 2014 #21
DC ranked 21st in viol crime cities jimmy the one May 2014 #24
zip guns make up DC's 40 percent gejohnston May 2014 #25
would you believe, a half percent? nah jimmy the one May 2014 #29
not all information is online gejohnston May 2014 #33
a fact is not a logical fallacy jimmy the one May 2014 #61
cherry picking a few cities gejohnston May 2014 #62
uncoordination jimmy the one May 2014 #63
No. gejohnston May 2014 #66
another false premise jimmy the one May 2014 #67
yes you did gejohnston May 2014 #68
prove & imply jimmy the one May 2014 #69
fail. gejohnston May 2014 #70
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