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Response to ellisonz (Reply #241)

Good for them. I don't see what UZIs do for hunting animals. I hate guns. I would never southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #1
What do you think an "UZI" is.... PavePusher Feb 2012 #3
I honestly don't think gejohnston Feb 2012 #5
It could be a water pistol. I just don't like guns. You can have them I just don't want them. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #9
The 2nd Amendment has not a single thing to do with hunting.. pipoman Feb 2012 #11
What about those of us who do not hunt? liberal_biker Feb 2012 #26
So you admit to ignorance? PavePusher Feb 2012 #28
All posters here have an opinion. I am just one poster with MY OWN opinion. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #35
Fair enough. liberal_biker Feb 2012 #37
I stress I personally do not like guns. In a perfect world I wish no one had them. I know that southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #48
I apologize as well, same reason. PavePusher Feb 2012 #40
No I don't care if you carry guns. I am scared to death of guns. I don't understand why southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #43
People carry them in public.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #49
There will come a day... jeepnstein Feb 2012 #90
It would be nice if that day had any chance of coming liberal_biker Feb 2012 #92
That is true ...... oldhippie Jan 2013 #267
the Uzi in question gejohnston Feb 2012 #4
Thank you. I just am scared to death of guns. I had a brother-in-law who was an expert user of southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #6
Not to put too fine a point on it.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #42
He was. It was a new rifle and the first time he used it. He had stuffed small cougar, a stuffed southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #46
I'm really not trying to be rude.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #50
So many misconceptions, so little time. Straw Man Feb 2012 #15
But a lot of folks have those misconceptions -- maybe you are the one misconceiving. Hoyt Feb 2012 #17
And yet, because these folks have these misconceptions... krispos42 Feb 2012 #19
Correcting anyone about what? You need to understand that some people don't give a darn about Hoyt Feb 2012 #24
See? Revolver equals bazooka for all intents and purposes krispos42 Feb 2012 #80
You expect me to think a serious post would mean anything to those Hoyt Feb 2012 #81
Well, it might work better than your current approach n/t krispos42 Feb 2012 #82
So let me get this straight ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #20
No I'm not claiming that. I'm claiming most people don't want folks carrying guns in public -- Hoyt Feb 2012 #29
Who gives a shit? liberal_biker Feb 2012 #31
Now, that's the attitude I'm familiar with. Guns are not the same as the Civil Rights or Gay Right Hoyt Feb 2012 #34
No you're right - they arent. liberal_biker Feb 2012 #39
Not true. Try reading the 2nd Amendment a little closer. Not sure where you come up with that Hoyt Feb 2012 #44
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #51
No it's not, read Justice Stevens' decent in Heller. You might actually learn something. Hoyt Feb 2012 #60
Hm..... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #62
Actually four agreed. And, you don't see DC or Chicago changing anything. Hoyt Feb 2012 #73
All 9 agreed.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #88
As an aside to your claim.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #107
Just because a lot of people have those misconceptions... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #27
You are still misconceiving. Hoyt Feb 2012 #30
Well you're right about one thing.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #33
Believe it or not, there are lots of legal things that people just should not do. Hoyt Feb 2012 #53
Whether you think they SHOULD do it or not.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #55
Yea, I'm "bigoted" against those who strap a gun or two on to venture out into public. Hoyt Feb 2012 #58
Describe to us what a "well regulated militia" is. oneshooter Feb 2012 #76
Read Stevens' dissent. Here's link. He explains it so that even the "Gun Culture" can understand it. Hoyt Feb 2012 #79
Since you rairly read anything that opposes your view, I would like it in your words. oneshooter Feb 2012 #97
You may not realize this, but... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #98
Sure it does - it might be cited in next case, and maybe there will be one less right winger Hoyt Feb 2012 #104
So you have a losers opinion - so what? hack89 Feb 2012 #102
I read it and it was because of the weak line of logic that Heller won the day. aikoaiko Feb 2012 #216
More likely right wing Justices went along with NRA and similar groups' faulty reasoning. Hoyt Feb 2012 #217
Maybe the prevailing opinion would be more instructive Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #243
Incontheivable! Common Sense Party Feb 2012 #47
Don't think I've used that word. Maybe you can point it out. Hoyt Feb 2012 #56
"That" word is "misconceivng". Common Sense Party Feb 2012 #67
Look it up. Hoyt Feb 2012 #72
I guess you finally checked a dictionary. Hoyt Feb 2012 #105
I do not think it means what YOU think it means, Vizzini. Common Sense Party Feb 2012 #112
Sounds like a maternity ward. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #268
I don't know the difference in guns. I don't really care if people want to own them. I hate guns southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #22
Good for you. liberal_biker Feb 2012 #25
The only "fear" I see here is among those who have to surround themselves with guns. Hoyt Feb 2012 #36
+1 ellisonz Feb 2012 #83
Hypocritical? DragonBorn Feb 2012 #172
lol ellisonz Feb 2012 #177
The same way one fears cbrer Feb 2012 #175
What is in your house that is so valuable that you have a need to have so many guns? I'm just southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #41
Law enforcement often isn't able to prevent or stop crimes that are being committed. Their function Common Sense Party Feb 2012 #52
Now that I can respect. Even though you have it you are wise enough to know you always don't need southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #57
But I'm also wise enough to bring it when I do think I might need it. Common Sense Party Feb 2012 #68
Your the kind of person who should carry a gun. You sound level headed. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #71
What is in my house that is so valuable? liberal_biker Feb 2012 #59
Yep, you are exactly the kind of person I would fear in a establishment. You sound like a hot head. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #63
You must be afraid of a lot... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #65
She didn't say you were a hot head. You just sound like one. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #109
Well that last sentence is a pretty clear bastardization of what I actually said... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #111
You must be kidding Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #134
I guess you need this spelled out for you. beevul Feb 2012 #149
You really think it needed explaining? Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #156
So let me get this straight.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #157
And what exactly do you claim to be educated about? Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #158
I have no problem with it. liberal_biker Feb 2012 #160
"Funny part?" Really? Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #161
Yeah - really. liberal_biker Feb 2012 #162
Yeah, you do. Union Scribe Feb 2012 #205
Nah! I think I've got him pegged. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #223
Fortunately... ellisonz Feb 2012 #226
Quelle surprise! Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #231
its YOU that need correcting here, not him. beevul Feb 2012 #163
I guess I was right. Oops! Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #244
Discerning about what? beevul Feb 2012 #257
Nobody put words in his mouth and you know it. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #258
All you have to do is scroll up and look... beevul Feb 2012 #259
I have read all his posts several times. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #260
+1 ellisonz Feb 2012 #261
My intention was never to discuss him, in the first place. beevul Feb 2012 #262
Beevul was kind enough to explain the grammar to you liberal_biker Feb 2012 #154
+1 ellisonz Feb 2012 #123
Blood spilled by a knife is of the same composition as blood spilled by a bullet. Marengo Feb 2012 #153
Gun owners are paranoid? DragonBorn Feb 2012 #167
No, no, you don't understand.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #171
A few points: PavePusher Feb 2012 #108
What is in your house that is so valuable that you have a need to have so many guns? YllwFvr Feb 2012 #147
I can't ascribe my opinions cbrer Feb 2012 #176
why would this be a bad thing? bowens43 Feb 2012 #2
Oh reality... Clames Feb 2012 #7
Problems with your post... SteveW Feb 2012 #13
All 9 justices thought differently. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #16
+10000. Maybe when the makeup of the Supreme Court changes, those 5/4 rulings will turn. Hoyt Feb 2012 #38
Keep telling yourself that.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #155
Please discribe to us what a "well regulated militia" consists of. oneshooter Feb 2012 #78
I'm a gun owner, but I keep an open mind on some gun control issues. JohnnyRingo Feb 2012 #8
If I were riding fence in Wyoming or Montana gejohnston Feb 2012 #10
All thay ammo is like money in the bank. ileus Feb 2012 #12
The purpose of such firearms. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #14
Depends on how one defines "self defense". JohnnyRingo Feb 2012 #21
On high powered rifles. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #23
"Renegade government?" Man if they ever require a psychological evualtion before one can own a gun, Hoyt Feb 2012 #32
His words, not mine. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #45
No Korean store owner I've ever seen... ellisonz Feb 2012 #84
Congratulations- You've completed the Fallacy of Kael trifecta: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #93
Thank you for discounting... ellisonz Feb 2012 #116
The fact that you don't personally know anyone... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #117
And you have no idea how many Korean owned liquor stores... ellisonz Feb 2012 #120
Have you been into ALL of them? Straw Man Feb 2012 #125
Have you been into ALL of them? ellisonz Feb 2012 #126
No, but I'm not the one making claims. Straw Man Feb 2012 #148
I only claimed my personal experience. ellisonz Feb 2012 #151
Do you personally search Korean mart you enter... Marengo Feb 2012 #152
Damn right. ellisonz Feb 2012 #159
Quite a bit, the answer is no then. Now, did you ask... Marengo Feb 2012 #164
No. Did you? ellisonz Feb 2012 #165
So based upon... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #166
This poster is no longer with us. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #206
Pistols? DragonBorn Feb 2012 #168
? Glassunion Feb 2012 #178
At home... ellisonz Feb 2012 #179
What are you talking about "at home"? Glassunion Feb 2012 #180
One photo is not a trend. ellisonz Feb 2012 #181
since the cops retreated and left them to fend for themselves gejohnston Feb 2012 #182
Think it through. ellisonz Feb 2012 #183
IIRC gejohnston Feb 2012 #185
There was... ellisonz Feb 2012 #189
To quote you... Glassunion Feb 2012 #184
Okay. Maybe I should have just cautioned unless in a riot situation. ellisonz Feb 2012 #187
Keep in mind Glassunion Feb 2012 #188
I've read about the riots... ellisonz Feb 2012 #191
Ok... So the model of "assault weapon" makes a difference? Glassunion Feb 2012 #194
Really... ellisonz Feb 2012 #195
You really dont understand DragonBorn Feb 2012 #215
"Just because you don't see them doesn't mean their not there." ellisonz Feb 2012 #219
Try responding to the question DragonBorn Feb 2012 #224
How many of those people kept assault rifles in their store? ellisonz Feb 2012 #225
What then is your claim in post #84 based on? Marengo Feb 2012 #197
My personal experience and reasoning ability. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #199
Let's try again, shall we? Marengo Feb 2012 #202
How about you try again... ellisonz Feb 2012 #204
Once again did you ASK every Korean store owner... Marengo Feb 2012 #208
In other words, you have no data from the persons in question to back you original statement Marengo Feb 2012 #209
Oh I never pretended to. liberal_biker Feb 2012 #129
Personal experiences are, by definition, personal. Not universal. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #122
I never said otherwise... ellisonz Feb 2012 #124
Just because you have never personally seen them, does not mean they don't exist. Glassunion Feb 2012 #94
Once again.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #95
I never made that claim. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #140
Well, you did challenge people who questioned on that. Straw Man Feb 2012 #174
But you have claimed that our (yours & mine) experiences are identical Marengo Feb 2012 #212
So your experience on the average day is that the average liquor store owner has an AK in his store? ellisonz Feb 2012 #218
As I made no claim whatsoever, how is it you conclude our experiences are identical? Marengo Feb 2012 #220
AK or no AK. Straw Man Feb 2012 #221
My conclusion is supported by my observation. ellisonz Feb 2012 #222
Did you actually look behind each counter or ask each store owner? Marengo Feb 2012 #227
Ha... ellisonz Feb 2012 #228
Nope, I've made no claim. You have, therefore burden's on you. Marengo Feb 2012 #229
"Cite or retract." ellisonz Feb 2012 #230
Your credibility lies in shards. Straw Man Feb 2012 #233
Says you... ellisonz Feb 2012 #234
Says I ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #235
I don't feel a need to prove myself correct... ellisonz Feb 2012 #236
Yes, that much is clear. Straw Man Feb 2012 #239
I'm waiting for either a citation from you of where I made such a statement, or a retraction... Marengo Feb 2012 #237
There are no neutral observers in this Group. ellisonz Feb 2012 #241
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #242
I'm still waiting ellisonz... Marengo Feb 2012 #245
Not going to do either one. ellisonz Feb 2012 #246
Yes, I do and will continue to question your integrity Marengo Feb 2012 #251
I'm simply suggesting you have a motive here... ellisonz Feb 2012 #253
My only "motive" is not to be associated with a position I have not articulated. Marengo Feb 2012 #254
"I haven't seen one, and therefore they don't exist." Straw Man Feb 2012 #232
What is the difference? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #96
Now, perhaps you can explain the substantive difference between... Marengo Feb 2012 #200
I'm not getting in a technical debate. ellisonz Feb 2012 #201
FYI, Other than the operating system... Marengo Feb 2012 #203
Don't expect an answer. He tends to run away when asked about his lack of knowledge. oneshooter Feb 2012 #210
Interesting, he certainly presents himself as knowledgeable. N/T Marengo Feb 2012 #211
His knowledge is from what he reads on the internet. oneshooter Feb 2012 #213
"I'm not getting in a technical debate." Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #214
There will not be such a scenario. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #75
It's always refreshing to hear a voice of sanity from a gun owner. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #110
A rather loaded statement Starboard... Marengo Feb 2012 #238
How perceptive of you Marengo. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #240
I understand you point of view... Marengo Feb 2012 #247
I had no desire to negatively characterize all gun owners. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #248
That's a well thought out post. Hoyt Feb 2012 #18
"He needs his guns to protect his guns from criminals." ellisonz Feb 2012 #85
So much wrong with this DragonBorn Feb 2012 #173
Boy oh boy I see posters here see no reason to have some limits. It's not worth even having southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #54
Open mind? liberal_biker Feb 2012 #61
Yep, like I said hothead. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #64
Yep... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #66
She's got you pegged. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #86
We already have "some limits". Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #74
Please, propose what you think would be a reasonable limit, and support your assertion.... PavePusher Feb 2012 #99
No matter what I say many posters won't agree. Why bother really? southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #101
If you have nothing to add.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #103
Someone might. I honestly don't think that you'll come up with something new, but you might. PavePusher Feb 2012 #106
Understand, southernyankeebelle, that those of us who support Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #136
Emphasis on "one book by an esteemed liberal criminologist" Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #249
You mean Gary Kleck? gejohnston Feb 2012 #255
Yes, and your quote is excellent. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #256
There are plently of limits already DragonBorn Feb 2012 #169
Not that I needed another reason to dislike Romney, but this will do. Dissonance Feb 2012 #69
Why do you need to own an unlimited number of guns as fast you can buy them? n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #87
Who said anything about need? liberal_biker Feb 2012 #89
I fail to see where... ellisonz Feb 2012 #113
You can ask all you want. liberal_biker Feb 2012 #118
Why does anyone have to justify their need/needs to you? N/T beevul Feb 2012 #91
Why do you have respond to my post? n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #114
Because this is a discussion board, and I'd like an answer to that question. beevul Feb 2012 #150
Why should there be quantity/calender limits? PavePusher Feb 2012 #100
Why shouldn't there be some limits? ellisonz Feb 2012 #115
You don't seem to understand how this works liberal_biker Feb 2012 #119
Bahahaha... ellisonz Feb 2012 #121
Where did I say Dissonance Feb 2012 #127
Your post implies that gun control reform by its nature is a losing wedge issue. ellisonz Feb 2012 #128
"I'm hardly ignorant of firearms" oneshooter Feb 2012 #130
Thanks buddy! ellisonz Feb 2012 #131
because you don't seem to have a lot, if any, knowledge oneshooter Feb 2012 #135
"You have claimed to have never owned a firearm, then you claim to own them." ellisonz Feb 2012 #137
I know horse people gejohnston Feb 2012 #138
Prove it. ellisonz Feb 2012 #139
not the same thing gejohnston Feb 2012 #143
Fortunately... ellisonz Feb 2012 #144
Awwwwwwwww but still missing much gejohnston Feb 2012 #145
But.... but... but.... PavePusher Feb 2012 #146
You are correct, I was crossing one of your posts with Hoyts. oneshooter Feb 2012 #141
Thank you for acknowledging that. . ellisonz Feb 2012 #142
A horse is a horse DragonBorn Feb 2012 #170
I've read books on criminology... ellisonz Feb 2012 #250
because none of your proposals gejohnston Feb 2012 #132
"reasonable gun control reform" Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #133
What reasonable gun control measures Dissonance Feb 2012 #186
I am about saving lives. ellisonz Feb 2012 #190
As can I Dissonance Feb 2012 #192
Gun control can be self-supporting. ellisonz Feb 2012 #193
Since when Dissonance Feb 2012 #196
Crime is not in a "free-fall" - Crime is plateauing over the last decade. ellisonz Feb 2012 #198
Free fall, plateau, Dissonance Feb 2012 #207
The gun lobby is big money. ellisonz Feb 2012 #252
Elsewhere in Mass... A bunch of guys with REAL machine guns, chainsaw their way into an apartment Glassunion Feb 2012 #70
What was the third most often used lie? discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #77
A reasonable solution, The Perlman Firearms Responsibility Bill proposal matthew04401 Jan 2013 #263
somethings things I disagree with gejohnston Jan 2013 #264
re: somethings things I disagree with. matthew04401 Jan 2013 #269
Was it necessary to zombie this year-old thread? ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #265
Maybe that's why we need guns ellisonz Jan 2013 #266
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