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34. I agree that it is wisest to carry a self defense pistol with a round chambered. ...
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:19 PM
Mar 2014

My son in law prefers to carry with the chamber empty. He sometimes carries a Glock and there have been a number of accidents with this pistol caused by the fact that the safety is on the trigger. Obviously a quality holster, practicing safe gun handling techniques and not installing lighter target trigger assembly on the pistol should eliminate the possibility of most such accidental discharges with the Glock.

Recently my son in law has decided to mainly carry a Ruger LCP because it is so light. I have tried to assure him that the long and fairly heavy trigger pull of this pistol should allow him to carry it with a round in the chamber as long as it is in a good holster. I also pointed out that it may be difficult to chamber a round if he is attacked at close range and only has the use of his gun hand. He told me that he has mastered using his belt or a pants pocket to chamber a round. He can be stubborn so I gave up. Chances are that he will never have to use his weapon for self defense anyway.

I solve the problem by carrying a S&W model 642 double action revolver in a good pocket holster. I'm mainly a wheel gunner and somewhat of a dinosaur in the modern gun culture. I don't believe that it is necessary to have the ability to fill the air with lead if you are attacked but instead to hit what you aim at. I practice double action shooting and am reasonably proficient at close range.

In my opinion a well maintained revolver is extremely reliable and will function with ammunition that might cause a misfeed or malfunction in a pistol. It also no safety lever to remember to disengage in an emergency. The long heavy trigger pull makes an accidental discharge less likely. It's also called a "belly gun" for good reason. You can shove a revolver into a person's stomach and it will fire while a pistol will fail as it is out of battery as the slide will be forced slightly back.

Of course the snubbie I carry only has five rounds. Obviously this might be a disadvantage if I were attacked by several people. I do carry a backup speed loader but it definitely takes more time to use a speed loader than a magazine to reload a handgun. Still I really do not expect that I will ever be attacked nor do I go looking for trouble. I also practice situational awareness which should enable me to avoid most violent encounters. Of course if I were in law enforcement, I would carry a pistol with a much higher capacity.

I have carried a pistol in the past but it was a double action only .40 Beretta Centurion. That was in different time and a more dangerous place than where I currently live. This pistol is quite similar to a revolver as it has a long heavy trigger pull and no safety lever to forget. I carried it with a round in the chamber.

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I know nothing of mooses jollyreaper2112 Feb 2014 #1
SYG would imply gejohnston Feb 2014 #2
This doesn't conform to this group's SOP, IMO. And I hope the dude is killed next time. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #3
But if we had gun control - this would never have happened jpak Feb 2014 #4
I am happy to admit that I wish to hell he'd had no gun. nt NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #6
not even close gejohnston Feb 2014 #7
What should he have done? Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #16
wait for the moose to leave gejohnston Mar 2014 #18
That wasn't a full grown Moose. oneshooter Mar 2014 #20
I don't totally disagree with you Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #21
I actually agree with you on something, for a change. The snowmobiler was the aggressor Electric Monk Mar 2014 #22
in some states gejohnston Mar 2014 #23
In Texas it is a felony. oneshooter Mar 2014 #24
Seems like some of my information is dated gejohnston Mar 2014 #32
The fact that he left it wounded is what most disturbs me. ... spin Mar 2014 #35
I do. I value the life of a moose more than a human. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #19
The Holy Gunner was antagonizing a moose with moose-like calls jpak Mar 2014 #27
The moose was "Standing his ground"...too bad he wasn't armed as well... truebrit71 Feb 2014 #5
or treat him as an attacking wolf gejohnston Feb 2014 #8
I believe that the local "Operation Game Thief" should be involved. n/t oneshooter Feb 2014 #9
indeed gejohnston Feb 2014 #11
This guy's an idiot Pullo Feb 2014 #10
JPAK, are really this ignorant of the SOP? Jenoch Feb 2014 #12
Guntoters look to use their guns to solve problems jpak Feb 2014 #13
I'm not a guntoter, Jenoch Feb 2014 #14
Moost interesting. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #17
If it's goose and geese, why isn't it...moose and meese? ileus Feb 2014 #15
This thread has been alerted on. krispos42 Mar 2014 #25
This was not hunting - this was self defense with a gun. jpak Mar 2014 #26
not self defense gejohnston Mar 2014 #31
Well it was either a crime or self defense use of a fire arm. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #28
It wasn't alerted. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #33
What wasn't alerted? Then what is Krispos talking about in #25? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #37
I know a number of people who legally carry concealed as they mainly fear attacks by ... spin Mar 2014 #36
Big question is why was the dumbass carrying a firearm without a round chambered? ileus Mar 2014 #29
Clearly he wasn't the brightest mammal in the woods that day. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #30
I agree that it is wisest to carry a self defense pistol with a round chambered. ... spin Mar 2014 #34
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