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In reply to the discussion: The Second Amendment was Ratified to Preserve Slavery [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)1. quite old and quite discredited
First off, those who opposed slavery also supported the second amendment. Second, it was and is intended to be an individual right. Slave patrols were not part of the militia, they were part of the police system.
This article argues that James Madison wrote the Second Amendment to assure his constituents in Virginia, and the South as a whole, that the federal government could not disarm the state militia, which were the prime instruments for slave control in the South.
Did he provide evidence of this letter to the slave holders of Virginia? No. I guess it was so well hidden that historians could not find until one day a tort lawyer found them.
Also, every state was required to have a militia and there was an individual mandate for each male of age to buy his own gun.
Roger I. Roots pointed out in his article The Approaching Death of the Collective Right Theory of the Second Amendment, in the Fall 2000 edition of the Duquesne Law Review
[A]ccording to Bogus, the. . . Second Amendment was an avenue for Southerners and Anti-Federalists, who had lost out in the overall design of the Constitution, to assert a buffer provision against the military power of the federal government. Unfortunately for this line of reasoning, a secret or hidden history is neither binding nor helpful in interpreting a constitutional provision. Nor is it nearly as clear, as Bogus suggests, that slavery supporters cowed at stating their support openly during the ratification debates. The Constitution does, after all, contain slavery provisions that were expressed (and thus unhidden) in the text albeit in stifled wording. While these slavery provisions may contain inscrutable language that the people could not readily understand, they nonetheless were understood by people of the Founders era as slavery provisions. Boguss own writings yield scant primary evidence (which would be needed to take his argument on its face) of either any similar understanding regarding the Second Amendment or any secret correspondence among slavery supporters evidencing the notion that the Second Amendment was intended to enable slave states to obstruct the federal government should abolitionists ever gain control of it.
Basically Bogus wrote a shill piece for VPC and Thom Hartman took it seriously.
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*yawn* Then why did the northern states duplicate an individual right to keep and bear arms?
X_Digger
Feb 2014
#14
The replies are thoughtful, but the OP has written us off as 'zealots'...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#32
Look. The DNC Party Platform is full of holes. ie, support for the Death Penalty is not cool.
NYC_SKP
Feb 2014
#42
Well, that explains non-slaveholding states not only ratifying it, but including it in the state con
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2014
#45