Gun Control & RKBA

Starboard Tack

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54. I think most folk agree with us on this.

Tue Sep 24, 2013, 01:16 PM

Sep 2013

The problem is that we have been manipulated by the all powerful gun lobby, that doesn't give a damn about constitutional rights or public safety. Only money, and the way to make more money is to expand the market. Guns don't wear out as quickly as other consumer items, so they have to expand their market by creating a whole new class of consumers - the CCW crowd.
The level of exploitation is truly insidious and is a sign of a rapidly failing society. Kinda sad when you see intelligent people falling for that kind of crap, but we have been trained since childhood to consume all kinds of garbage.
Good luck retraining your husband. So ironic that you refuse to accompany him when he carries, when so many here claim they carry to protect their loved ones. Crazy world we live in.

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I don't like open carry, do you? If you agee, would you be willing to... [View all] Bay Boy Sep 2013 OP

Open carry is rude and obnoxious and concealed carry should be illegal Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #1

I agree that open carry is rude... Bay Boy Sep 2013 #2

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #114

Well then, Warren, better get busy. "Fine words butter no parsnips"... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2013 #3

I'm sorry you think you need to wander around armed and dangerous while shopping for groceries. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #4

I too carry to the grocery store... Bay Boy Sep 2013 #7

And that makes it OK that nobody knows? Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #9

maybe because it is no one's business? gejohnston Sep 2013 #23

We're talking about carrying around other people, urban environments, not in the desert, prairie or Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #26

actually, there are. gejohnston Sep 2013 #28

I agree with you, Starboard HockeyMom Sep 2013 #51

I think most folk agree with us on this. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #54

I think you are wrong sarisataka Sep 2013 #58

Fact is, most people would prefer no carry Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #61

I believe, given the option sarisataka Sep 2013 #67

"I don't believe carrying a long arm makes any sense..." HALO141 Sep 2013 #69

Were I going to a gunfight sarisataka Sep 2013 #71

I agree on all counts. HALO141 Sep 2013 #87

I appreciate the effort... sarisataka Sep 2013 #104

" I don't have the right to walk away from you?" oneshooter Nov 2013 #115

If I cannot see that you are carrying, HockeyMom Nov 2013 #116

Why would you give nasty comments to a total stranger? oneshooter Nov 2013 #117

What makes you think you deserve that option? nt rrneck Nov 2013 #119

I have to associate with every stranger I meet on the street? HockeyMom Nov 2013 #120

No. nt rrneck Nov 2013 #121

I will not associate with my HUSBAND of 40 years in public HockeyMom Nov 2013 #122

Ordinarally your relationship with your husband would not be germane rrneck Nov 2013 #123

It would be illegal for me to open carry in public in my state of Florida. ... spin Sep 2013 #59

I live in Florida too HockeyMom Sep 2013 #60

I doubt that open carry will ever pass in Florida. ... spin Sep 2013 #62

I most certainly WOULD HockeyMom Sep 2013 #65

I agree and that's why I said that I doubt if open carry will ever pass in Florida. (n/t) spin Sep 2013 #66

actually you sort of can gejohnston Sep 2013 #72

True. .... spin Sep 2013 #76

There have been enough cop baiters on You Tube gejohnston Sep 2013 #80

Perhaps you should consider a more agoraphobic lifestyle. HALO141 Sep 2013 #75

Do you know why open carry was banned in Florida? gejohnston Sep 2013 #70

In the interest of intestinal fortitude, decisions as to mode of carry... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #77

You miss my point completely Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #82

Maybe you don't have a plausible point. Increase sales of compact guns? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #83

I agree- and btw, I do not own a gun and haven't for decades friendly_iconoclast Sep 2013 #55

Open carry is terrorism and intimidation.... n/t Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #5

Agreed and concealed carry is moronic, paranoid, deceitful and just plain stupid. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #10

If I were... Bay Boy Sep 2013 #37

Nice. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2013 #112

If you choose to be scared that's your fault. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #44

In a nation where more than oughly 25,379 people have died from guns in the U.S. since the Newtown Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #91

How can there be over 25K people dieing from guns gejohnston Sep 2013 #93

Suicides and accidents with guns are gun violence. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #96

so accidental drownings in swimming pools gejohnston Sep 2013 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #100

Your argument is a false analogy, a logical fallacies. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #101

no it isn't, we are talking about fatal accidents and suicides gejohnston Sep 2013 #102

And i think jumping off buildings counts as building violence. n/t EX500rider Nov 2013 #105

I always thought of it as sidewalk violence gejohnston Nov 2013 #106

I don't know... EX500rider Nov 2013 #107

I blame Newton. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2013 #113

Where is this tremendous concern when it comes to getting criminals Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #99

that is your opinion, not fact. n/t GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #85

People who carry guns are the ones who are so frightened that they have to carry a means to kill Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #92

the 25K myth gejohnston Sep 2013 #94

So you are saying that 8 or 9 thousands murdered by guns, which is More than in many wars Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #95

with guns gejohnston Sep 2013 #97

how do you know the ones who are carrying guns are terrified? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #103

One of my odder fantasies is... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #6

I do not open carry since concealed carry is legal in Texas. rl6214 Sep 2013 #8

That's the best reason for making CC illegal. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #12

You don't want CC and you don't want OC. There's just no pleasing you people. rl6214 Sep 2013 #14

Sure there is Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #17

You don't get to choose your own option. rl6214 Sep 2013 #19

I am aware of that. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #48

Your post HALO141 Sep 2013 #74

You are absolutely right. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #81

Yes, I am right. HALO141 Sep 2013 #86

Believe me, there was no attempt at sarcasm. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #88

By the same token HALO141 Sep 2013 #89

Very true. The irony is that both of us are right. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #90

Crime never happens in public venues? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #45

Oh I get it! Bay Boy Sep 2013 #38

I don't make penis jokes about guns. I'm talking about openness and honesty, not your penis Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #43

Somehow I've managed to keep both... Bay Boy Sep 2013 #53

Good for you Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #56

I suppose... Bay Boy Sep 2013 #63

The penis obsession comes from the anti-gun crowd. Never have I seen it mentioned by pro-gun people shadowrider Sep 2013 #64

"da 231 ft Penis of Doom looms over the St Pete pier!" Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #79

I don't carry at all, but if I did, I wouldn't open carry. rrneck Sep 2013 #11

It's mandating how people behave in public, not how they look. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #13

How is standing in line for a movie wearing a gun rrneck Sep 2013 #15

If the gun is visible, it gives others the option to stay in line or leave. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #18

You always have that option. What's the difference? nt rrneck Sep 2013 #21

The difference is knowledge rather than wondering who may or may not be carrying a gun. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #25

Adding firearms to such a situation poses risks for anyone in the vicinity. rrneck Sep 2013 #31

cos, rr - doncha know: That gun can load itself and, jump out of the holster all by itself Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #41

Absolutely, also you can always tell what people are going to do just by looking at them. nt rrneck Sep 2013 #42

Why shouldn't they? rl6214 Sep 2013 #16

Because it encourages dishonesty and reduces public safety. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author gejohnston Sep 2013 #22

Since your knowlege of either is non existant gejohnston Sep 2013 #24

I have no clue what you're talking about, but have one on me. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #27

fire sign theater gejohnston Sep 2013 #29

oooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkk Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #30

Seeing first hand and gejohnston Sep 2013 #32

one more thing gejohnston Sep 2013 #73

He's saying you're making unfounded assertions with no basis in observed fact. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #46

Sadly not unique in this thread, as seen in the linked posts #4 and #55: friendly_iconoclast Sep 2013 #57

You don't know any more than I do. rl6214 Sep 2013 #34

or we could prohibit all civilian carry. nt Deep13 Sep 2013 #33

I'd be willing to ditch CHP laws, and keep OC legal. ileus Sep 2013 #35

I would settle for national CCW reciprocity. hack89 Sep 2013 #36

agreed. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #40

cops open carry Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #39

My other favorite canard disproven by police practice -- Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #47

but, Cops are More Equal than you and I ... that is why -We- pay their salaries. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #49

In 65 years I have never stood on a supermarket line with a cop HockeyMom Sep 2013 #68

Not my fault that you have lived such a gentrified existence. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #78

I'm OK with Open Carry, but I don't like the stunts. aikoaiko Sep 2013 #50

I don't like open carry. I think it's silly. I don't think cost has anything to do with it. Common Sense Party Sep 2013 #52

I don't like open carrying in public places. Hunting, fine. But walking into a theater or coffee AlinPA Sep 2013 #84

I am opposed to most open carry. Jenoch Nov 2013 #108

I like Montana's system gejohnston Nov 2013 #109

I'm fairly certain in Minnesota Jenoch Nov 2013 #110

I think you should ask Robb. NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #111

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