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anomiep

(153 posts)
31. A person who fills out a license form or a 4473
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jul 2013

Are they being compelled to do so?

I see the point WRT a felon in possession getting an additional charge of not registering simply because registering would require them to incriminate themselves.

However, convicted felons are prohibited from owning firearms and getting carry permits in the first place, and they're not under a compulsion to either buy firearms or apply for carry permits.

So, my net comment here is ... I don't know, I'd like to see case law specifically with regard to 4473 forms and carry permit applications. The logic that 'you can't be charged for something where you're being asked to incriminate yourself', taken to an extreme, where the crime itself is the testimony (as it could be on a 4473 or a CHL application) would seem to imply that nobody could ever be charged with perjury for signing that their statement was true and correct on an affidavit where they'd lied.

good, enforce existing laws Duckhunter935 Jul 2013 #1
But he'll get out of prison........ rdharma Jul 2013 #2
Nah, he's toast if convicted ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #4
No more guns? rdharma Jul 2013 #5
Not legally ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #8
Illegally yes. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #20
If he's convicted. rl6214 Jul 2013 #16
The guy was a nutcase anyway ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #3
A nutcase? rdharma Jul 2013 #6
I agree ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #7
He wasn't advocating banning guns...... rdharma Jul 2013 #9
He wasn't referencing Adam Kokesh..... premium Jul 2013 #12
LOL! Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #10
LOL. premium Jul 2013 #11
Another "responsible firearms owner" gone bad rdharma Jul 2013 #13
There's no evidence whatsoever that he was a "responsible firearms owner" friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #14
He could legally own a gun.......... right? rdharma Jul 2013 #15
There's a difference between 'legal' and 'responsible', and there's a way to understand... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #17
Explain the 'difference' ....... rdharma Jul 2013 #18
It's like the First Amendment ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #23
Nothing in the Constitution requires people to be "responsible" rdharma Jul 2013 #24
LOL, still not getting the lesson I see ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #25
"Responsible also does not equal illegal." rdharma Jul 2013 #26
Very good ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #27
Let me know when you realize that rights under the Constitution are not unlimited! nt rdharma Jul 2013 #28
actually, maybe not gejohnston Jul 2013 #19
I'm surprised that hasn't been challenged in court yet. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #21
??? anomiep Jul 2013 #29
Haynes vs. U.S. (1968) AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #30
A person who fills out a license form or a 4473 anomiep Jul 2013 #31
4473 is for the purchase of a gun. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #32
I referenced 4473 anomiep Jul 2013 #33
Libertarians and their love of drugs... ileus Jul 2013 #22
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