Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Probably the best 2nd Amendment speech ever. [View all]jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)johnston: The Nazis did not have a monopoly on concentration camps
You didn't mention that when you wrote that FDR initially called them concentration camps, implying a sinister nazi connection. It seemed you wanted to imply I was playing nice with them while FDR was aghast in horror or something. But I'll give you the benny of the doubt, what diff anyway.
I'm not saying that US and Canadian governments did anything like the SS. I was simply pointing out that the internment camps were not exactly lands of milk and honey you seem to think they were.
Comparatively over the course of history this could be considered wartime tolerance, & compared to nazi concentration camps they were relative safe havens. War was hell.
I remarked about weiss saying they were 'imprisoned' & I think this too harsh a description for it, if simply for the connotation that prisons are for wrongdoers. Weiss, a big stretch: anyone who is proud of this law must also be proud of .. imprisoning Japanese citizens in World War II,
I am not proud of the internment camps, only look back at the thought process. The japanese people in japan did not want wwII, neither really did hirohito, it was tojo & the military which forced it upon both. Dropping two atomic bombs onto civilians was far worse than japanese internment camps.
.. It was an infringement upon japanese americans rights - using today's standards, but world wars didn't come along every year, & pearl harbor was a pretty low blow which initiated war hysteria, especially on the west coast. That, is what I meant when I wrote jap-ams were safer in the camps than walking about mean western streets esp at night.
I bet if weiss, or you or semper fi guy had been of age in 1942 you'd've been amongst the most vociferous to shoo them in there, or give it a shoulder shrug. Let's have a shout out for the record how you'd've stood up for japanese americans in 1942, protesting. It could even be considered, retroactively, bush doctrine - preemptive maneuver.
your link: American public opinion initially stood by the large population of Japanese-Americans living on the West Coast" Many Americans believed that their loyalty was unquestionable. However, 6 weeks after the attack, public opinion turned against Japanese Americans living in on the West Coast, as the press and other Americans became nervous about the potential for fifth column activity. Though FDR administration dismissed all rumors of Japanese-American espionage on behalf of the Japanese War effort, pressure mounted as the tide of public opinion turned against Japanese-Americans.Bush would've argued it was 'for their own protection', I bet.