Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Gun Control & RKBA

In reply to the discussion: Credibility Poll [View all]

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,669 posts)
21. Hi, good to hear from you.
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:19 AM
May 2013


Glad you got a chuckle but it's my turn, now. "Junk science is any scientific data, research, or analysis considered to be spurious or fraudulent." Now considering my OP here (an internet opinion poll) can't possibly be inferred to be "scientific data, research, or analysis".

Very funny!

"A proper poll results from random selection of a normal distribution of people, which disqualifies your 'credibility poll' right there, since it's done in a forum about RKBA/guncontrol which attracts the progun element like bees to honey (or rats to cheese)."


Just another short poll here: would that make you a bee/rat/progun element? (Unscientific? You bet!)


  1. "proliferation of assault rifles, such as ar15"
  2. "bullets from which can penetrate bullet vests & steel helmets & walls & doors"
  3. "can be effectively lesser automatic fire ~90 rds per minute"
  4. "with little recoil so as to make them more accurate"
  5. "You are introducing more & more battlefield guns into places which are not battlefields."
  6. "Handguns kill of course far more frequently, they are cheaper to buy,"
  7. "but have less long range capability & accuracy"
  8. "are normally limited to a few deaths per incident."

Just some observations/questions:

  1. AR-15s are functionally the same as numerous other rifles
  2. many bullet designs have similar or superior penetration characteristics
  3. many rifles can be fired at this rate
  4. would you have something scientific that determines accuracy by recoil amount
  5. an AR is not a "battlefield gun" nor is it an "assault rifle"
  6. very true, as I said
  7. well of course but that doesn't change their effectiveness
  8. deaths that occur in ones or twos are acceptable???


"There is no federal awb, so we presume you speak of another 'state' awb."
- Since the topic here is legislation being considered, I infer that you missed that.

"What did you REALLY prove with your poll?"
- Nothing, I just collected opinions.

"Your 80% pro gun result also proves NOTHING except your poll is junk science, since it is opposite to what properly run reputable polls have shown about support for awb & current guncontrol efforts."
- You mean those polls which I linked here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172121632
The same polls that conclude half to two thirds of those surveyed believe registration data will be used to confiscate guns? Are those the polls you're thinking of?

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Credibility Poll [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 OP
How anyone can possibly say with a straight face premium May 2013 #1
Absolutely discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #6
Your first statement: Tuesday Afternoon May 2013 #2
Of course. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #7
heh. just call me -- Tuesday Afternoon May 2013 #11
You must report to... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #12
Along with... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #13
You know what the talk of that ban accomplished? tularetom May 2013 #3
Well gunny... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #8
They sent NRA membership to an all-time high. GreenStormCloud May 2013 #15
I'm still laughing at all the daily NRA Meetng reports from the gun controllers DonP May 2013 #4
I'm not much for crowds... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #9
I may be missing the latest edition of sarisataka May 2013 #14
I just think it's really ironic that all the posts on what the NRA is doing in GD and LBN ... DonP May 2013 #16
I could be wrong, but I never seem to see other posts from the usual suspects which are AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #26
It's called lurid fascination. Eleanors38 May 2013 #22
Depends what the gun control side is after. If they are trying to limit another Newtown style jmg257 May 2013 #5
Well... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #10
The only piece of AWB that had any logic was the magazine capacity limit JustABozoOnThisBus May 2013 #17
Agree... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #19
in-credibility poll jimmy the one May 2013 #18
Look out folks here comes captain obvious clffrdjk May 2013 #20
poll rigging, the point jimmy the one May 2013 #23
Where was it claimed to be anything but an unscientific internal poll? clffrdjk May 2013 #25
Perhaps... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #28
Yea, great idea clffrdjk May 2013 #29
I think we should trust him. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #31
Only the ones in the Gungeon DonP May 2013 #30
Now you're just being... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #32
Remember, plastic flamingos are out, garden gnomes and windmills are in again. DonP May 2013 #33
Close the gungeon? discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #34
Can you get a bulk deal on Redman? CokeMachine May 2013 #35
You see, sir... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #37
Now I understand, sir. CokeMachine May 2013 #39
You could send a pm to graham4anything Bazinga May 2013 #36
Is he one of the new neighbors? discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #38
Hi, good to hear from you. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #21
quinni poll is how it's done, learn jimmy the one May 2013 #24
Oh. You see this is what makes me sad. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #27
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Gun Control & RKBA»Credibility Poll»Reply #21