Gun Control & RKBA

rrneck

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28. There are three kinds of guns.

Mon Apr 1, 2013, 10:17 PM

Apr 2013

1. Machine guns (full auto).

2. Semi auto guns. (guns that cycle the action either from energy supplied by the shooter or the cartridge)

3. Single shot.

If you want stronger legislation, you will have to ban No. 2.

Good luck and god's speed.

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What is argument against certain grips for some rifles? [View all] ZombieHorde Apr 2013 OP

When you grip a gun in a certain way Bay Boy Apr 2013 #1

Okay, that's a new one. rrneck Apr 2013 #4

"You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me... Bay Boy Apr 2013 #10

Damn I love that scene. ntt rrneck Apr 2013 #11

Because they Niceguy1 Apr 2013 #2

They look "military". rrneck Apr 2013 #3

They make the rifle easier to aim hack89 Apr 2013 #5

Point taken daybranch Apr 2013 #22

So your thesis is that if guns didn't look Rambo, white supremists and nut cases wouldn't bother? iiibbb Apr 2013 #25

No, the rapid fire combined with large magazines Warpy Apr 2013 #6

I think I understand the arguments concerning ROF and magazine size, ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #7

Yet nobody is proposing banning semi-automatic rifles as a class. krispos42 Apr 2013 #15

I know, they all seem to be missing the point Warpy Apr 2013 #16

*shrug* krispos42 Apr 2013 #23

"unable or unwilling to tackle the really big issue" ^^^ Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #59

The rate of fire armueller2001 Apr 2013 #53

No, ban semi autos. Warpy Apr 2013 #55

Good luck with that endeavor armueller2001 Apr 2013 #58

Stock/grip design does have a large effect on efficacy. DollarBillHines Apr 2013 #8

I don't think as much as you think. krispos42 Apr 2013 #35

I was thinking about larger calibre... DollarBillHines Apr 2013 #54

Pistol grips are the most evil of evil features. ileus Apr 2013 #9

And where, on this spectrum of evil... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #65

I don't ever hear gun control advocates talk about grips Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #12

So you are calling for a ban of all semi-automatic weapons? Rifles and handguns? hack89 Apr 2013 #13

Yes, that is what I think needs to happen Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #14

Not true daybranch Apr 2013 #18

I guess you have forgotten about Va Tech. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #27

Yes, you do, actually krispos42 Apr 2013 #20

No I don't actually Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #24

The point is that they are all the same gun. krispos42 Apr 2013 #32

Thanks, I will agree that much of the current assault weapons ban is poorly written Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #44

I've been saying for a few months now.... krispos42 Apr 2013 #57

You can read about it sarisataka Apr 2013 #21

You may be able to find examples of gun control advocates talking about grips... Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #26

With the two top gun control groups sarisataka Apr 2013 #29

A couple of brief mentions among a list of other features hardly makes it a major point Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #31

There are three kinds of guns. rrneck Apr 2013 #28

You need to add "manual repeater" to the list krispos42 Apr 2013 #33

Those are covered under No. 2 rrneck Apr 2013 #34

Mmmmm... I guess so krispos42 Apr 2013 #37

If you're looking down the wrong end of one it don't matter. rrneck Apr 2013 #40

Probably already on the drafting board. krispos42 Apr 2013 #43

Yep. Can't outrun technology. nt rrneck Apr 2013 #46

Already exists. Straw Man Apr 2013 #50

I used to have a 700 BDL ( I believe it was called) rrneck Apr 2013 #51

*blink* krispos42 Apr 2013 #56

You mean like these? oneshooter Apr 2013 #48

There y'go. Probably been tooled up for it for years. nt rrneck Apr 2013 #49

I would order it this way. iiibbb Apr 2013 #63

I would break it down further. Straw Man Apr 2013 #66

So people will adapt... immoderate Apr 2013 #39

A pistol grip is a defining characteristic of "assault weapons" in the expired federal AW ban and... slackmaster Apr 2013 #61

"I don't ever hear gun control advocates talk about grips" ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #72

John Q. Public doesn't deserve any ergonomic designs. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2013 #17

Ergonomics sylvi Apr 2013 #19

Good point. Some folks like the old Ithaca Model 37 pump shotgun... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #62

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #30

That brings up an obvious question- How much time have *you* wasted here... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #36

Not as much as you have...eom Kolesar Apr 2013 #38

Why not go back to your clubhouse and enjoy the echo? DonP Apr 2013 #41

But it's *fun* sniffing out heresy! And real-world politics is difficult, after all. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #45

Perhaps- but I also spend more time practicing realpolitik and less on culture war. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #42

29,000 posts say differently. nt Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #52

It comes down to appearance -- pistol grips don't look "sporting" kudzu22 Apr 2013 #47

It's all about style slackmaster Apr 2013 #60

It's purely emotional. jeepnstein Apr 2013 #64

A pistol grip allows the gunman to fire from the hip, as is typically done in combat mwrguy Apr 2013 #67

funny, they didn't teach us that in basic training gejohnston Apr 2013 #68

IMHO, having a pistol grip... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #69

I really don't believe that the poster has any military experence. oneshooter Apr 2013 #77

It is safe to say that ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #70

You know more about assault weapons than the director of the ATF? mwrguy Apr 2013 #73

Sadly, it would appear so, at least in this one fact. ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #74

Absolutely madville Apr 2013 #75

Show me the army training manual kudzu22 Apr 2013 #78

Thanks for the video. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #71

Any semiautomatic long gun can be fired from the hip krispos42 Apr 2013 #76