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beevul

(12,194 posts)
82. LOL.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 09:17 PM
Mar 2013

Its not about me.

Its about pointing out and documenting the lies and hypocrisy, coming from the pro-more-restriction side of the issue.

Do you have a problem with that?

Calling semi-automatic firearms that look like military firearms but do not function like military firearms "weapons of war", is a the textbook definition of a lie, and intended by those who know better, to mislead those who don't.

Theres no spinning that, or personally attacking me in any way, or implying that it is a "reaction to gun deaths", that will make the lie true. A principled person from the pro-more-control side of the debate, might even question the validity and righteousness of their cause, if they have to lie/repeat things that are patently untrue in pursuit of it. You're free not to do that, and everyone else that notices is free to point it out for what it is.

"Everyone else is being extremists, and soon all gun owners will be hunted down by mobs with torches and pitchforks."

Yeah...like the poster in GD that called out for drone attacks on gun owners for example...Its people like that, and the fact that most of you on your side of the debate that haven't denounced and removed them from your presence in this issue, that prevents most people who value his/her rights where firearms are concerned from even sitting down at the table with you.

Your side is the side thats always preaching "reasonable" and "commonsense". Remove those from your side who are neither, before asking us to sit down with you. Assuming you disagree with them. If you don't, then hey, "you get what you get".









it wasn't reseach gejohnston Feb 2013 #1
Which explains why the NRA made super sure no more studies were funded. Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #3
What? gejohnston Feb 2013 #4
This. Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #5
correct gejohnston Feb 2013 #6
"Studies are done" can you cite just ONE? nonoyes Feb 2013 #8
recent ones? gejohnston Feb 2013 #10
In other words, not a single study of law-abiding gun ownership. nonoyes Feb 2013 #11
guns and swimming pools are not viruses gejohnston Feb 2013 #13
I'm sure you and I will never agree, nonoyes Feb 2013 #18
on this, you are probably correct gejohnston Feb 2013 #25
Guns and Swimming pools only share this Lordquinton Feb 2013 #39
Let's take a look, shall we? holdencaufield Feb 2013 #48
Let's add some depth to that Lordquinton Mar 2013 #71
have a study for that? gejohnston Feb 2013 #49
I suspect the line between science and pseudoscience becomes blurry at times. Lordquinton Mar 2013 #72
pot meet kettle gejohnston Mar 2013 #73
see most of these on TV? Lordquinton Mar 2013 #76
we go to different ranges gejohnston Mar 2013 #77
There is a problem with the CDC funding Lordquinton Mar 2013 #79
If you read the studies done by Kellermann etc gejohnston Mar 2013 #80
Actually, there is a rebuttal the "debunking" done by NRA nonoyes Feb 2013 #7
I read the critiques by gejohnston Feb 2013 #9
Maybe I should buy a lottery ticket holdencaufield Feb 2013 #2
If you are such a terrible parent that you would give a gun to a 12 year old... Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #12
How well do you know Canadian gun laws? gejohnston Feb 2013 #14
What the hell do Canadian gun laws have to do with anything? Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #16
not big on cultural diversity are you? gejohnston Feb 2013 #21
It is not about "cultural diversity" it is about deadly weapons in the hands of children Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #23
since kids who learn responsible gun ownership gejohnston Feb 2013 #27
Adam Lanza's mother used to like to bring him to the shooting range with her Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #32
actually not, gejohnston Feb 2013 #35
Kid learns to use a gun safely ... holdencaufield Feb 2013 #36
So you want to change the topic to comic books turning kids gay? Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #44
You need to read more ... holdencaufield Feb 2013 #50
You can think this is about gay comic books all you want but you just look ridiculous Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #52
I'm quoting you here ... holdencaufield Feb 2013 #53
What part of that sentence claims that guns were the only factor? Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #54
" Guns were what enabled Lanza to kill" holdencaufield Feb 2013 #57
Read the OP and you may understand that there are very few studies on guns Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #58
To be fair ... holdencaufield Feb 2013 #59
No, you are right Adam Lanza shot up an Elementary School not a mall Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #60
"I don't seem to remember anyone being murdered with a ballot recently" holdencaufield Feb 2013 #61
No one was murdered with a ballot Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #62
No, it's quite literally a million times worse. holdencaufield Feb 2013 #63
Well I support the right to vote even if you don't Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #64
I support ALL rights holdencaufield Feb 2013 #65
That's not true. Clames Feb 2013 #66
Are you saying that my sons are a danger? oneshooter Feb 2013 #37
I don't know anything about your sons Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #45
You keep saying"Giving guns to kids", that would be illegal oneshooter Feb 2013 #55
I would guess that would leave me off your X-Mass list. oneshooter Feb 2013 #15
Yes, I would call you a terrible parent as well Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #17
What age would you "give a gun" to your son/daughter. oneshooter Feb 2013 #19
I would never give a gun to them Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #20
Oh I don't know, gejohnston Feb 2013 #22
I would fear your term "grounding of the century" might prove to be too accurate Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #24
safer than cars gejohnston Feb 2013 #26
No guns are not safer than cars any more than heroin is safer than cars Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #30
"Dumpster guns" seems to have become a new theme with our pro-gun friends here on DU. Squinch Feb 2013 #28
Yea -- where is this dumpster? holdencaufield Feb 2013 #41
If we could find it, we could probably reduce the military budget. Squinch Feb 2013 #43
Thanks! holdencaufield Feb 2013 #38
So, the controllers now make personal attacks on DU members' parenting skills? Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #29
Giving a kid a gun is not a responsible or wise choice Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #31
You only lash out blindly at others. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #42
Not blindly, I only have criticized those who have admitted to giving kids guns Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #47
holdencaufield did not say he gave his 12-year-old a gun slackmaster Feb 2013 #67
"Giving a kid a gun" ... Straw Man Feb 2013 #68
Did you happen to read the OP about those responsible and wise choices? Squinch Feb 2013 #34
the OP is about some MD gejohnston Feb 2013 #40
You can always find fuck ups. The vast number of folks are NOT irresponsible... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #46
No. To believe that many are not responsible is to read the newspaper. Squinch Feb 2013 #51
Nice try, but "no" back to you... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #56
So you might want to let the NRA in on your proposals, because they are out-voicing you. Squinch Mar 2013 #75
You've got the onus backwards. beevul Feb 2013 #69
So we'll put you in the column of responsible gun owners who refuse to take responsibility for the Squinch Mar 2013 #74
Your non-denial denial is a confirmation of sorts. beevul Mar 2013 #78
Yes, yes. Everyone is being mean to you and trampling on your rights. Everyone who Squinch Mar 2013 #81
LOL. beevul Mar 2013 #82
Ah! The old "I am rubber, you are glue" gambit! Interesting! Squinch Mar 2013 #83
+1,000,000!!!!!!!!!!!!! Walk away Feb 2013 #33
Dad gave me a shotgun when I was eleven. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #70
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